We're all wrong, but we can all agree that John is the most wrong.

The EU giveth, and Apple taketh away.

• Pre-show: Casey’s thought processes and traditions
  • The Last Dance
• Follow-up:
  • iCloud Keychain browser integration in Sequoia
    • Ricky Mondello on
      • Chrome Native Messaging JSON files documentations
    • Simeon (formerly Chrome, now Firefox) weighs in
      • Use alternative installation methods for Chrome extensions
      • Sideloading addons in Firefox
    • Niléane points out Network Locations was already back in Sonoma
    • iPhone Mirroring doesn’t help with rearranging your home screen (via Hunt 2013)
    • HomePods apparently have 1GB RAM
    • Some insight on InSight
    • Chess is around 35 years old
      • Infinite Mac
    • CarPlay
      • Next-Generation CarPlay Design System
      • Next-generation CarPlay Architecture
• Apple Found in Breach of DMA
  • Apple Statement
  • Margrethe Vestager
• Apple may delay features because of DMA
  • Press release
• Ask ATP:
  • Does anyone keep track if rumor mongers’ claims are true are not? (via Todd Vaziri)
• Post-show: An update on Erin’s car situation
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple plans thinner devices?

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Tons more info and follow-up from WWDC and the beta OSes.

• Pre-show: Marco’s nethers and the Vision Pro
  • The Talk Show Live from WWDC 2024
  • Theatre (App Store link)
  • Sandwich
  • SpatialGen
• ATP Interview: Holly Borla & Ben Cohen
• Microsoft Recall
  • 7 June: Microsoft Recall will be opt-in
  • 13 June: Microsoft Recalls Recall
    • Microsoft blog post
• CoPilot+PCs on Intel and AMD won’t get Copilot AI features
• UTM has gotten told to pound sand
  • More from Michael Tsai
  • Dolphin and the App Store
• Apple and Meta could face charges for violating 🇪🇺 DMA rules
• Casey was in the keynote!!
• tvOS
  • InSight will use your iPhone
  • InSight uses ML to identify actors and songs?
  • Turning off sports notifications on the Apple TV
• watchOS 11 offers rest days
  • Matthew Willoughby with an excellent flex
• “Apple ID” → “Apple Account”
• macOS Sequoia
  • Using an Apple Pencil with an iPad in Sidecar already works!
  • Chris Chelberg has a galaxy brain moment
  • Network Locations have returned in Sequoia
  • Passwords.app passwords are still right-aligned
  • Sequoia window tiling can be disabled
  • Chess has been updated! (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
    • Comparison (via Cabel Sasser)
  • iCloud Keychain browser integration in Sequoia (via Jonathan Freese)
  • Sequoia VMs allow logging into iCloud
    • Apple documentation
• Apple Intelligence
  • Apple Intelligence & third-party mail apps (via Rick Knowler)
  • Xcode AI code completions
  • Hardware requirements (via David Steer)
  • Apple’s AI training data
  • How to tell Apple “no thanks” on your website data
  • Tim Cook interview in the Washington Post
  • ST-S asks about Siri unsupported devices
  • Apple Silicon in Apple’s Private Cloud Computing servers
    • The Talk Show
  • Apple & OpenAI aren’t paying each other yet
    • Gurman’s report
  • The Sane on the impact of Apple Intelligence
• iOS 18
  • Bezel indents
    • GIF
  • Caleb Denman on iOS flashlight features
    • Quinn’s video
  • Third-party cameras on the iOS lock screen (via ST-S)
    • WWDC video
    • Obscura
• visionOS 2.0
  • Features not mentioned in the keynote
    • Customize your Home View
    • See your keyboard in any environment
    • Guest user improvements
    • Enterprise APIs
    • Other spots by The Verge
• Swift
  • Moved out of github.com/apple
    • New home
  • Swift Testing
    • Github
• HomeKit: You can now pick your HomeKit hub
• CarPlay
  • New features
  • Next-gen CarPlay video
• Post-show: Erin’s no-good, very bad week
  • A very expensive pebble
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s Blue Ocean, revisited
  • John’s original blog post
  • Fairbuds noise-canceling earbuds have an easily swappable battery

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In this special episode from the Apple podcast studio at WWDC 2024, we interview Swift Core Team members Holly Borla and Ben Cohen.

• Holly Borla: Swift Language Engineering Manager
  • @holly on Mastodon
• Ben Cohen: Senior Software Engineering Manager, Swift Team
  • @airspeedswift on Mastodon

At WWDC 2024, together at last!

Our WWDC 2024 recap episode.

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A strange but useful new product, how LLMs can learn, and our hopes and expectations for WWDC next week.

• Pre-show: Marco’s fans
  • Peltier plate
  • Marco’s mount
    • The alternative stronger cooler
  • Cooler only, without charging
• Follow-up:
  • Snapdragon X actually runs at 45 TOPS (via sciwizam)
  • Justin Long shills for Qualcomm
    • Commercial
    • Snapdragon Computex Keynote
    • Previously, for Intel
    • Apple’s M1 ad with John Hodgman (“PC”)
    • Gruber’s take
    • Jason on macOS permissions dialogs
  • Windows Recall is a security “disaster”
    • Steal everything in two lines of code
  • AMD enters the AI chat
  • Intel’s new Lunar Lake CPUs
  • When Apple said “The M2 iPad Air has 10 GPU cores” they really meant “9 GPU cores”
    • Performance wasn’t affected though
  • How LLMs learn
    • Retrieval-augmented generation (via Adeiko)
      • Problems with RAG
      • Research paper
    • On ∞ context (via Stephen Tierney)
      • Research paper
• WWDC Preview
  • Read my lips: no new hardware
  • Developer app immersive environment
  • OpenAI deal
  • XCTest
  • Fluent Assertions
• Ask ATP:
  • Any chance the expected late-2024 M4 MacBook Pro gets Thunderbolt 5? (via James)
  • Any chance we’ll get 16GB RAM in the eventual M4 MacBook Air? (via David Martin)
  • Could the lack of cellular Mac be because there’s no Apple modem? (via Winnie Lewis)
• Post-show Neutral: Kid cars, revisited
  • ATP Neutral: Car shopping
    • Casey’s Wireless CarPlay adapter
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s in-car dreams are a bit of a 🎢
  • Mercedes says “nothx”
    • Decoder episode
  • Polestar says “maybes”
    • Decoder episode
  • Apple 🤝 Rivian?
    • Digitimes (Paywalled)

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Rumored AI features for WWDC, the state of LLMs, and a ridiculous desktop speaker setup.

• Follow-up:
  • New Vision Pro Content
    • Experience Immersive (“Sizzle Reel”)
    • Adventure Episode 2: Parkour
    • What If…?
      • Jason Snell’s review
  • Even the low-storage 13” iPad Pros have 12 GB of RAM, despite only using 8 GB? 🤨
    • Editors’ note: Thanks to Elon’s Big Business Brain™, we now have to link to all the tweets X’s in this whole 🤬 thread, because Twitter X won’t show threads unless you’re logged in. Well done, Elon. Great work. 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 Now we’re junking up our show notes because we 💙 our listeners more than we hate him. And we really hate him.
    • Shahram Mohktari (iFixIt Lead Teardown Technician)
    • Could it be binning?
    • Maybe, but unlikely. For real
  • M4 iPad Pro flicker?
    • Pulse-width modulation
    • Reddit thread 1
    • Reddit thread 2
    • Reddit thread 3
    • Reddit thread 4
    • MacRumors
  • TOPS measurements (via Michael Thompson)
  • iCloud Drive & node_modules (via Eric Jacobsen)
    • nosync-icloud
    • asimov
      • Excluded directory list
  • Audio routing during Vision Pro guest mode (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen)
• Gurman on what to expect at WWDC
  • Neven Mrgan gets an email
  • Breaking news on Siri “scripting”
    • App Intents
    • NSUserActivity
• LLM check-in
  • Google scrambles to manually clean up its AI-generated mess
  • Pachinko
  • 3Blue1Brown neural networks playlist
    • Chapter 5: But what is a GPT? Visual intro to transformers
    • Chapter 6: Attention in transformers, visually explained
  • Google on its LLM goals at I/O
• Post-show: Marco’s desk setup
  • KEF Q150
  • Sonos Era 300
  • Sonos Move
  • Sonos Combo Adapter
  • Sub (Gen 3)
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Biden signs TikTok ‘ban’ bill into law
  • Legal challenges that lie ahead for TikTok — in both US & China
  • TikTok sues the US government
  • TikTok seems to be dodging App Store commissions in Epic fashion

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We… talked about Microsoft for 90 minutes?!

• Follow-up:
  • John’s iPad Pro (M4) review
  • MKBHD’s magnets reel doesn’t show the rail; it’s on the cover. (via Odin)
  • The iPad Pro can bend, but it’s difficult
    • JerryRigEverything @ 8m40s
  • Quinn’s stunning Pencil Pro observation
    • Sebastian de With
  • Zoom audio for Marco’s town meetings (via Steve J Stutz, among others)
  • Delta gets its first legal challenge
    • The Verge
  • The reason behind the lack of GameCube/Wii emulators on iOS
    • Original blog post
• No New Mac Studio nor Mac Pro Until Mid-2025?
• Microsoft pushes [again] toward ARM PCs [and AI]
  • Blog post
  • The Verge
  • Windows RT
  • Ars Technica
    • Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite & X Plus
  • Nuvia
  • Copilot+PC Surface Laptop
    • …with fans?
  • WorksOnWoA
  • Copilot+PC roundup
  • Surface Pro
  • Microsoft Recall
    • Demo short
    • Ars Technica
    • Rewind
• Post-show: Parental Vision Pro demos
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 OpenAI
  • OpenAI pulls its Scarlett Johansson clone voice
    • Altman’s tweet
    • …after she told them to go outside & play hide and go 🤬 themselves
    • Maybe they didn’t copy her voice?
  • Don’t add glue to your pizza sauce, kids
  • Cabel’s take

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Apple's accessibility announcements, returning to an old scanner friend, and leaping into the iPad discourse.

• New member special: ATP Neutral: Car Shopping
• Pre-show: Marco is back in the ScanSnap world
  • Raven scanner (defunct)
  • Fujitsu Ricoh ScanSnap iX1600
• Follow-up:
  • Apple apologizes for iPad “Crush” ad
    • Charlie Chapman’s 📱💨
  • AppleCare+ for educational-discounted products (via Carter Sanderson)
    • Extend your AppleCare+ coverage
  • iPad nano-texture glass
  • Arun Maini interviews Ternus & Joswiak 1 2 3 4
    • Editors’ note: Thanks to Elon’s Big Business Brain™, we now have to link to all the tweets X’s in this whole 🤬 thread, because Twitter X won’t show threads unless you’re logged in. Well done, Elon. Great work. 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 Now we’re junking up our show notes because we 💙 our listeners more than we hate him. And we really hate him.
  • iPad Pro Smart Folio angles
    • MKBHD’s reel
  • Smart Folio Keyboard reliability
  • Apple stickers (via Scott)
  • The M4’s “next-generation ML accelerators” (via Wade Tregaskis)
    • NEON
  • M4 Neural Engine: 38 trillion ops/sec vs. M3’s 13 trillion ops/sec
    • Tom’s Hardware
  • M4 with 1 disabled P-core vs. M3 with no disabled P-cores
• Apple announces new accessibility features
  • Vehicle Motion Cues demo video
  • Shelly Brisbin’s take
• John’s brief iPad Pro review
• iPad Pro dissatisfaction
  • Federico Viticci: Why iPadOS Still Doesn’t Get the Basics Right
  • Steve Troughton-Smith: The iPad Pro Manifesto (2024 Edition)
  • John Gruber: The M4 iPad Pros
• Ask ATP:
  • Will the M4’s new display driver set us up for a 2-external-display computer with M4? (via Rumee Ahmed)
  • Why is there so much discussion about CPU power in iPads but not iPhones? (via Mike Runcieman)
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Meta wants to be the Microsoft of headsets
  • Meta announcement
  • Meta Quest 🤝 Xbox
• Post-show: John’s latest remote IT software adventure

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In this special members-only episode, we pick cars that we'd choose in five theoretical scenarios.

Good morning! We have a huge show ahead of us, and it's all about iPad. This is the biggest show about iPad since its introduction. But first…

• Follow-up:
  • More on RAM in base-model Macs
  • HomeKit light controls UI
  • Holoplot speakers in the Sphere
    • Festival speakers
  • One last ride for FineWoven?
• Apple’s May Event
  • 🇬🇧 & 🇪🇺: Charger sold separately
  • And no soup stickers for anyone
  • Apple’s commercial hullabaloo
    • Hydraulic Press Channel
  • Federico’s Thunderbolt image
  • Quinn Nelson’s Tandem OLED video
  • Binning
  • Rick Williams’ question
  • Logitech Combo Touch keyboard
  • Apple Pencil Pro box designs
  • Infuse
• Post-show Neutral: The Cybertruck has landed across the street from Casey
  • Pontiac Aztek
  • Subaru BRAT
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Silicon in AI servers?
  • MacRumors in April
  • MacRumors in May
  • The Wall Street Journal on May 6
  • The Wall Street Journal (Apple News+ link)

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Hopes for the iPad event next week, Rabbit R1 reviews, (slightly) less-fussy coffee, and the experience of Phish at the Sphere.

• Pre-show: Casey’s after-action report
  • St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital
  • RelayFM Podcastathon 2023 Part 1 & Part 2
• Follow-up:
  • It’s possible to toggle a dimmable light in Home.app (via Dan Sturm)
  • The Hayes AT command set is still going strong 😱 (via Pedro Fernandes)
  • TSMC unveils 1.6nm process for 2026 chips
    • Anandtech’s coverage
  • Rabbit R1 reviews
    • Stephen Robles
    • MKBHD
    • David Pierce @ The Verge
    • Ben Lovejoy @ 9to5Mac
    • Dave2D
  • Riley Testut on Delta availability
  • iPadOS is classified as “Gatekeeper” under the DMA
  • No new Vision Pro until late 2026?
• May 7 Apple event
  • Tim Cook’s tweet
  • M4 iPad rumor
• Ask ATP:
  • Did Marco give up on fussy coffee, as Casey’s prophecy foretold? (via Charlie Sorrel)
    • Trade Coffee (literally sponsoring this episode)
    • YES PLZ (has previously sponsored)
    • Cometeer frozen coffee pods (Marco’s referral link)
  • Can we give WWDC tips? (via Andy)
  • Are we worried about charging station privacy? (via Wade)
    • Automakers are Sharing Consumers’ Driving Behavior with Insurance Companies (11 March 2024)
    • GM Quits Sharing Driving Behavior with Data Brokers (22 March 2024)
• Post-show: Marco’s after-action report
  • The Sphere
  • How the Sphere Works
  • The Verge’s coverage
  • Pillow Jets video (🍄🎆)
  • Drew Carey’s review (NSFW)
  • AmazeVR
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The Limitless pendant
  • Previously on ATP…
  • Introductory video
  • The Verge coverage

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The Delta emulator, AltStore PAL, M4 Mac rumors, and some promising news about Casey's favorite company.

• Pre-show: Marco’s Sinus Situation & the one month a yellow car makes sense
• The ATP Store is BACK baby! 👕
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  • 🚨 THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING 🚨
  • Remember members get 15% off!
• Follow-up:
  • Filesystems (🛎), case sensitivity, and APFS volumes
  • Handedness & “jumped” vs. “jumps”
    • Pangrams
  • Clarifications on the xz sabotage (via Mat Gadd)
  • The Delta game emulator is now available!
    • 🇪🇺 AltStore PAL
    • 🌎 App Store
      • #1 free app!
  • Apple allows using used parts for repairs
    • Stephen’s take
    • Apple’s lobbying history
    • Apple press release
    • iFixit blog post
  • Ceiling fan switches
    • Lutron Caséta (smart home switches/dimmers/fan controls)
    • Lutron Sunnata (dumb dimmer)
    • Waveform lighting
• Ticketmaster finally getting what it deserves?
  • Wall Street Journal
  • Broadband labels
• M4 Macs are coming this year?
• iPhone 16/16+ to have more RAM?
  • Mac desktop RAM chart
  • Mac laptop RAM chart
• Installing audio apps is going to get easier?
  • Rogue Amoeba’s 2024 Sitrep
• Ask ATP:
  • Is the M4 generation worth holding out for?
  • Why don’t we have 32-bit emulation? (via Joe Bezdek)
  • Will the [presumably HDR] phantom OLED iPad Pro work well as a second display with something SDR?
• Post-show: Marco is going to The Sphere
  • Billy Joel: The 100th
  • The New Yorker on Billy’s helicopter rides
  • But apparently he’s given up the helicopter rides
  • Turn the Lights Back On
• Members-only ATP Overtime: AI devices… now with more “Apple”!
  • Jony Ive & Sam Altman seeking funding for “personal AI device”
  • Apple’s screen-reading AI system
    • Paper (PDF link)
  • 3Blue1Brown videos
    • But what is a GPT?
    • Attention in transformers, visually explained

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EU app stores, retro emulators, what computer usage does to your handwriting, and important family light-switch policies.

• Pre-show: Power problems
• The ATP Store is BACK baby! 👕
  • Runs until Sunday, 28 April. Don’t wait!
  • Remember members get 15% off!
• New member special: ATP Insider: Computing Origin Stories
• Follow-up:
  • How little kids write 4s
    • Marco sample
    • Casey sample
    • John sample
    • Field Notes
  • Three-step car buying process (via Paul Chernoff)
  • Rivian software update helps avoid trash EV chargers
  • Joe Lion on reticle limits
    • High-NA EUV
    • ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon?
      • Johny Srouji interview (Timestamp link to 34m28s)
  • Belkin phone holders
    • iPhone Mount with MagSafe for Apple TV 4K
    • Auto-Tracking Stand Pro with DockKit
• A first look at 🇪🇺’s alternative app stores
  • Jason’s fresh-install experience
• Apple opens App Store to “retro” game emulators
  • Official guidelines
  • James Thomson
  • Ben McCarthy’s forthcoming Ketchup app
  • First emulators arrive
    • iGBA removed for unknown reasons
    • Riley’s take
    • Apple’s clarification why iGBA was removed
  • Nintendo nukes Yuzu
    • The Verge initial coverage & follow-up
• Ask ATP:
  • How does John manage new Safari windows? (via Jan Wedekind)
  • Do we use case-sensitive file systems on our Macs? (via Pedro Fernandes)
    • Unicode normalization
  • What kind of fan did Marco buy? (via Matt McCurdy)
    • Fanimation
• Post-show:
  • Lutron Diva smart switch
  • Lutron Claro accessory switch for Diva dimmers on multi-way circuits
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Visiting with old friends
  • Automattic acquires Beeper
    • NY Times coverage
    • Adium
    • texts.com
  • Humane AI Pin reviews
    • David Pierce @ The Verge
    • MKBHD
      • Cybertruck clip
    • Can anyone but a tech giant build the next big thing?

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In this special members-only episode, we reveal our earliest experiences with computers, and how we got this way.

Spatial personas in the Vision Pro, how to buy a car, how to charge a car, and how not to make cars.

• Pre-show: SD-card failures
• The ATP Store is BACK, baby! 👕
  • Runs until Sunday, 28 April. Don’t wait!
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• Follow-up:
  • The “unpatchable” M-series exploit
    • Explanatory video
    • Hector Martin found the “chicken bit”
      • ARM Exception Levels
    • DMP
  • Y’all don’t read the show notes, huh? 😏
    • LG DualUp Monitor
  • An 🎵 accidental 🎵 rant about the state of podcasting today
    • DAI
  • Would a M3-family chip really have no efficiency cores? (via Matthaus Woolard)
    • Max Tech’s take on “M4 Ultra” rumors
    • Reticle limits
      • NVIDIA GH100 GPU
  • Apple laying off 700+ workers
    • MacRumors
  • Apple 🤝🏻 Shutterstock
    • Reuters
  • Apple’s in-box iPhone “Presto” flashing machine
• Casey has tried Spatial Personas
  • Upgrade #507: Differently Social
  • Game Room (App Store link)
    • Battleship
  • Gucci (App Store link)
    • Trailer
  • Turok
• Ask ATP:
  • How does one buy a car? (via Chandler Kent)
    • CarEdge
    • Deal School 3.0
  • What even is ownership, these days? (via Anonymous)
    • Egghead Software
    • SimCity copy protection (the red image on the right-hand side)
    • Overton Window
  • This article says Catalyst is abandoned; is it? (via Jonathan Sibley)
• Post-show: Rivian Bluetooth & Fast-Charging Sitrep
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple making robots? 🤖
  • ImageWriter

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Apple Podcasts transcription, how Microsoft and Apple handle antitrust, speculating on M3 Ultra and beyond, and the Vision Pro's recent updates and struggles.

• Pre-show: John’s two-year anniversary
• Follow-up:
  • WWDC lottery results
  • John’s Affinity Designer struggles
    • Marco’s convert stroke → shape suggestion from the bootleg
    • Offset path using Contour Tool (via Vitor)
    • Create Compound (via Julian Kissman)
    • Inconsistencies noted by Christian Meyer
  • Sam Abuelsamid on real-time OSes in cars
    • QNX
    • Wind River
    • Green Hills
    • Qualcomm Snapdragon Cockpit
  • ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED fix is in Chrome 124 beta
  • Has Casey considered running any of his monitors in portrait? (via Bilal Khan)
    • LG DualUp Monitor
  • Apple IDs & real-world verification (via Simone Rizzo)
  • Non-email Apple IDs do still exist (via Erik)
  • Apple podcast transcripts & ☁️ computing (via Ben)
    • MacWhisper
• Microsoft is learning from Apple’s mistakes and is pre-emptively splitting Teams off from Office
• No UltraFusion interconnect on M3 Max?
  • MacRumors
  • Vadim Yuryev
• Apple Vision Pro Spatial Personas
  • Connected #496: I Tried to Put My Finger in Myke’s Mouth
  • Jason’s take
  • Stephen’s take
• Apple’s MLS Playoffs immersive video
  • Jason’s take
  • Ben Thompson’s take (Paywalled)
  • Under the Radar #289: Vision Pro Numbers
  • Mad Max: Fury Road
    • Centered framing
    • The Fastest Cut: Furious Film Editing
  • Vroom
    • F1TV
    • MultiViewer
• Post-show: New theme song! Thank you, Jonathan Mann!!
• Members-only ATP Overtime:
  • Hardware vulnerability in Apple Silicon
    • Michael Tsai’s coverage summary
    • Explanatory video
  • xz Utils backdoor
    • The Verge coverage
    • xz attack shell script
    • A Microcosm of the interactions in Open Source projects
    • Compulsory xkcd
    • I am not a supplier
    • OSQI

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John is not a fan of cars, screens, software, or… fans.

• Pre-show: Marco’s recording situation
  • Under the Radar #289: Vision Pro Numbers
• Follow-up:
  • Image captioning in iOS (via Jim Buell)
  • DMA compliance feedback session is live
  • Kara Swisher interviews Margrethe Vestager (Overcast link)
    • Gruber’s summary
  • Apple/Meta/Google targeted by EU in DMA non-compliance investigations
    • European Commission press release
    • Dan Moren’s take
    • Reuters interview with Margrethe Vestager
  • Regarding third-party messaging apps and the DOJ suit
  • Artificial tooth monopoly led the DOJ to… Jersey‽
    • Forum shopping
    • Legal experts praise DOJ case
  • DOJ lawsuit thoughts from Gavin Laing
• WWDC announced
  
  • Greg Jozwiak’s tweet
• People are fed up with useless tech in their cars
• EuroNCAP is doing the Lord’s work
• New CarPlay is Apple’s last hope to crack cars?
  • Real-time operating system
  • QNX vs. Android Automotive
    • QNX
• Ask ATP:
  • How soon after waking up do we engage with a device? (via Nick)
    • Everyone’s Sony alarm clock
  • What would cause us to go to 128 bit? (via Brian)
• Post-show: John’s battles with Affinity Designer
  • PaintCode
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The future of Apple ID
  • To be rebranded as “Apple Account”? (February 2024)
  • More from MacRumors (March 2024)

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The US antitrust lawsuit against Apple.

• Pre-show: We definitely recorded a day late because we’re clairvoyant and definitely not because of pyrotechnics.
• Follow-up:
  • The M1 MacBook Air lives on at… Walmart
    • Warmart press release
  • Apple Silicon & Project Titan
  • Safari hangs (via Wade)
  • Apple’s DMA compliance efforts
    • Apple DMA compliance workshop
    • Gruber’s take
    • Kay Jebelli’s recap on Twitter
    • AI-generated transcript
    • Video of Riley Testut’s question/answer
  • John’s curious obsession with street widths
    • Marco: 8’ / ~2.5m
    • Underscore: 19’4” / ~6m
    • John: 23’5” / ~11m
  • Magnets in Apple Watch bands (via Harvey Simon)
    • Modern Buckle
  • Is podcast transcription is Apple’s first big cloud computing effort?
• US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones
  • The Verge
  • Lawsuit PDF
  • Transcript of prepared remarks
  • Toot from Glyph
• Post-show Ask ATP: What do John & Marco have against multiple monitors, anyway? (via Tony)
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple AI updates
  • Another AI paper from Apple
    • VentureBeat summary
    • Stratechery recap (Paywalled)
  • Apple partnering with Google or OpenAI?
    • Bloomberg coverage
  • Humane Ai Pin

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The latest sports scores, sports reporting, betting odds, sports apps, and sports analysis from your most trusted and knowledgable sports experts.

• Pre-show:
  • ATP Overtime
  • ATP Insider: John’s Windows
    • ATP 96: The Windows of Siracusa County
  • ATP Membership FAQ
  • AppStories
• Follow-up:
  • Callsheet available on visionOS
  • “Put me on Aux” (via Sam Davies)
  • Spotify & free users (via Colin Meney)
  • 256 GB M3 MacBook Air has 2× 128 GB NAND chips
    • iFixIt Teardown
  • Project Titan chip rumors
  • What happens when 🇪🇺 folks leave 🇪🇺 for a while?
  • Epic’s developer account reinstated
    • Gruber’s take
    • Upgrade #503: We Own the Refs, the Stadium, and the Field
  • More options for 🇪🇺 distribution
    • Getting ready for Web Distribution
    • Newly proposed Apple flow
  • ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED gets first attempted fix
    • Original feature
• Google Gemini’s revisionist history
  • Reconcilable Differences #228: Big Filter Boy
  • Stratechery: Aggregator’s AI Risk
  • Gemini refuses to answer election questions
    • Reuters
• Ask ATP:
  • How come old software doesn’t continue to work anymore, particularly on mobile? (via Erik Neu)
    • Super Smash Brothers
    • Mega Man 2
    • OpenEmu
  • Would Apple be better off trading lower App Store commissions for higher hardware prices? (via Ryan Maloney)
    • Playdate
      • Swift on the Playdate
    • Pico 8
• Post-show Neutral: Rivian R2 & R3
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Rabbit r1
  • Interview with Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu
  • Neuro-symbolic model
  • CueCat

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In this special members-only VIDEO episode, John finally reveals his window-management techniques.

Apple continues to release great products while needlessly antagonizing just about everyone.

• Pre-show: Old men talk about old car stereos
• Follow-up:
  • John’s notes export via privacy.apple.com
  • Apple Vision Pro & Project Titan (via James Anthony)
    • JIBO
    • gita (the robot Casey was thinking of)
    • Gurman’s article (or on Apple News)
  • Apple Vision Pro’s inevitable future (via Matt Johnson)
• M3 MacBook Airs
  • Gurman on forthcoming Apple events
  • Hector Martin on two displays
  • Apple confirms backport of two-display support to M3
  • RIP the 🧀
• Apple fined $2 billion by EU for App Store practices
  • The Verge
  • EU ruling
  • Apple’s response
  • Sherman Antitrust Act
• AltStore has received its MarketplaceKit entitlement
  • Apple’s DMA policy updates
  • Updated rules
• Apple terminates Epic’s developer account
  • Epic’s blog post
  • Example tweet
• Post-show Ask ATP: If we could solve one of Apple’s legal problems, what would it be? (via Marc Robinson)

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The cancelation of Apple's car project, excitement for potential AI applications, the wonders of email clients, and starting a car in fifth gear.

• Pre-show: Marco is many things, but patient is… not one of them.
  • Blackbox
  • Crouton
    • Joanna Stern’s video
  • Television (App Store link)
  • ForeFlight Voyager
  • Flight Control
• Follow-up:
  • Vision Pro demand
  • Clarification about Apple’s new iMessage encryption
  • Extracting data from iCloud (via John Males)
    • Apple Privacy
  • Magnets and compasses
    • …in ✨ space ✨ (via Adam Wuerl)
    • …can be canceled out by Core Motion (via Zev Eisenberg)
  • Vision Pro & motion blur (via Orlando Herrera)
  • Meta’s “Pixel Codec Avatars” vs. Personas (via Gottfried Chen)
    • Facebook video
    • Uncanny valley graph
    • Casey’s podcast appearance
  • CrackGate
• Application Submission Feedback regarding Project Titan
  • MacRumors coverage
  • New York Times coverage
  • Tim Cook on cars in 2017
  • MJ Tsai
  • Jeff Johnson
• Ask ATP:
  • What email clients do we use? (via Joe)
    • Claris Emailer
    • Entourage
  • Why hasn’t Marco fallen off the deep end explored a DIY mechanical keyboard? (via Warren Bakay)
  • How interested are we in LLMs & generative AIs?
    • sdxl⚡lightning
• Post-show: WWDC wish-casting

Three weeks into the Apple Vision Pro, OLED motion, PQ3, and experiments with a LOT of megapixels.

• Pre-show:
  • Vision Pro comfort
    • Light Seal Sizes Decoded
  • ATP Movie Club: Steve Jobs
• Follow-up:
  • Vision Pro motion blur (via Chase)
    • Blur Busters
  • Vision Pro and warped images
  • Eyes as input vs. output (via Tony DiTaranto)
  • Fitts’s Law and the Dock
  • Apple 🤝🏻 Qualcomm
  • Apple & Patents
  • Mangets & Compasses (via Harvey Simon)
    • Modern buckle
  • Line/letter of credit (via Brian Coffey)
• Vision Pro
  • Personas
    • …are getting better in 1.1?
    • 1.0 → 1.1 examples
    • Charlie Chapman’s example
      • Persona Studio (App Store link)
• Apple defends against future iMessage attacks
  • Apple blog post
• Ask ATP:
  • How do we evangelize Mac-assed Mac apps? (via Ian Malczewski)
  • If we could get one new API for our apps, what would it be? (via Julian Gamble)
  • Could Marco best/first/favorite Phish concerts? (via Winnie Lewis)
    • Reconcilable Differences
    • Live Phish
• Post-show: Using a high-end camera and gear for Vision Pro panoramas
  • Fuji GFX
  • Canon dual fisheye lens

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In this special members-only episode, we watch and discuss "Steve Jobs" (2015).

We spent nearly 8 minutes talking about other topics… but, of course, this is mostly more about the Apple Vision Pro. There's a lot to cover!

• Pre-show: Casey’s Persona Surprise
• Follow-up:
  • iPad Pro 11” PPD
    • PPD calculator
  • A note on field of view and eye movement
  • Some discussion about Mac Virtual Display fidelity
  • Turning off Apple Vision Pro
  • The Developer Strap (requires login) is Thunderbolt capable
    • Orion (HDMI display app for iPad)
    • Casey’s HDMI capture dongle
  • “Real” vs. “Fake” 3D (via Matt Rigby)
    • Rotoscoping
    • More thoughts from friend-of-the-show Todd Vaziri
    • More [now un-paywalled!] thoughts from FotS Joe Rosensteel
  • iMessage will not be regulated as part of DMA
    • WhatsApp interoperability strategy
  • Riley Testut of AltStore weighs in on third-party marketplaces
  • What is a €1M “line of credit”, anyway?
• Apple Vision Pro
  • Guest mode
    • HDCP
    • Voices of VR Podcast with Bert Nepveu
  • Fitts’ Law on Dithering
  • ⌘-Tab
  • EyeSight
• Post-show: Casey’s Vision Pro after-action report
  • Casey’s blog post

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Our real-world Apple Vision Pro impressions so far.

• Follow-up:
  • YouTube API weirdness (via Christian Selig)
  • John’s [latest] Photoshop complaint
  • €0.50 is “50 cents”
  • Prescription lens pairing
  • Wide Lightning™ and Wider Lightning™
    • Developer Strap (requires developer account)
  • Vision Pro weight discussed in Vanity Fair
  • Bluetooth peripherals
  • Intel Macs & Mac Virtual Display
    • Support Document
  • Vision Pro syncs when not in use
  • Performance throttling
  • Vision Pro for movies & TV
    • Color reproduction
    • iFixit estimates resolution
    • “Ideal” field of view for movies
    • Pixels per degree:
      • iPad Pro 11” @ 14” / 35cm = 67 ppd
      • 65” 4K TV @ 5 feet / 1.5m = 76 ppd
      • Pro Display XDR @ 2 feet / 0.6m = 100 ppd
    • Real vs. Fake 3D
  • iFixit Teardown
    • Video part 1
    • Video part 2
• Vision Pro initial thoughts
  • John on spatial computing
  • Captain EO
  • Soarin’
  • VAC
• Post-show: Casey’s Vision Pro train experience
  • Casey Neistat’s video

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Apple's EU DMA compliance and our excitement for the Vision Pro.

• Follow-up:
  • Vision Pro talk begins next week; some good reviews for now:
    • Nilay Patel @ The Verge
      • Video review
    • Joanna Stern at The Wall Street Journal
    • Brian Tong
    • Gruber
    • MKBHD’s using Vision Pro
  • YouTube API (via Alex Chan)
    • Quota costs
  • Console hardware margins in the App Store & consoles
  • Customer ownership
  • Stolen Device Protection & device repairs (via Niru Maheswaranathan)
  • European eye prescriptions (via René Schätzl)
• Apple’s EU DMA compliance
  • Apple Newsroom
  • Apple Developer documentation
  • Apple Developer News
  • Gruber’s summary
  • Apple Fee Calculator
  • Marketplace requirements
    • MarketplaceKit
    • Developer documentation
  • Upgrade #497: The Poison Pill
  • Tapestry Kickstarter
  • Actual DMA text
    • English
  • Steven Sinofsky’s Summary
  • MacStories Summary
• Ask ATP:
  • Do we ever go mono on our AirPods? (via Darin Kelkhoff)
  • Are there any apps we’d make if there weren’t already ♾️ takes on that app? (via Aaron Thomas)
    • Total Annihilation
    • Ferrite
  • What settings do we use for Apple Music? (via Christian Kent)
    • Mimi Hearing Test
• Post-show: Casey is amped about his forthcoming Mac monitor
  • Ensemble to pull individual windows into visionOS

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Much more information about Apple Vision Pro.

• Pre-show: YouTube updates
• Follow-up:
  • SCSI DB-25 was on the back of Macs, not DB-50
    • D-subminiature
  • iOS Screen Sharing is a thing
    • No control for remote users though
  • On Apple’s 30% cut and payment processing fees
    • The Art of the Possible (John’s blog post)
  • Whose customer is this, anyway?
  • Apple’s compliance with EU law is likely to go exactly as expected
    • Apple News link
  • Apple Vision Pro optics (via Todd Zarwell & jkahnk)
  • Apple’s software workaround for Masimo-related import ban
    • Gruber’s take
• Apple Vision Pro preorders
  • Accessories
    • Battery
    • Belkin Battery Holder
    • Travel Case
    • Light Seal
      • Light seal sizes? (via Quinn Nelson)
    • Light Seal Cushion
    • Solo Knit Band
    • Dual Loop Band
    • Optical inserts (readers or prescription)
  • Please don’t break one 💸
    • The Verge
  • Weight
  • You have to pair the optical inserts
  • Launch inventory was 80,000 units?
    • But sales may have hit 180k?
  • Reseller market is optimistic
    • ebay Search
  • Apple Vision Pro Guided Tour
  • Sorry, non-🇺🇸
• Ask ATP:
  • Does the Apple Vision Pro work like a camera viewfinder? (via Nigel Warren)
  • Do we do anything to back up our emails? (via Lawrence Koteff)
    • Google Takeout
  • Do we use iMessage Contact Key Verification? (via Severin)
• Post-show: Family Apple Vision Pro vibe check
  • QuickDraw 3D
  • Scrapbook

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The imminent launch of Apple Vision Pro, the latest Apple Watch sales ban, and Apple's graceful and pragmatic response to the latest App Store court decision.

• Pre-show: Some Administrivia
  • New ATP member’s special!
  • ATP episodes are now on YouTube!
• Follow-up:
  • Marco’s UPS issue
    • Eaton UPS backup (via Jeff Strobel)
    • UPSes don’t like “dirty” power
  • Yes, y’all, John can be wrong sometimes.
    • But maybe he was 🤏🏻 right too? 🤔
    • John Gruber on the iPhone launch
  • Apple Vision Pro ordering details
  • Apple Vision Pro has 10 GPU cores
  • More on the Apple Vision Pro demos
    • Apple Vision Pro entertainment experiences
  • Maybe not all prescriptions work? (via Justin Yost)
    • Meta Oculus Quest 2 Inserts
  • Apple turns off blood oxygen sensor to avoid import ban
• Dear Epic, 🖕. Love, Apple
  • Support page
  • MacRumors summary
  • The Art of the Possible
  • Tyler Hall on “Modern-day Apple”
  • Ben Thompson’s take at Stratechery (Paywalled)
• Ask ATP:
  • How would we set up an iOS device for the elderly? (via Seppe Rutten)
    • Assistive Access
  • Why do audio-free apps sometimes stop playback of other apps? (via Wilson Martinez)
    • Levis app (App Store link)
  • Why doesn’t Apple just make HomePod mini into a mesh router? (via Saif Khan)
• Post-show: What is a truck, anyway?
  • Casey’s poll
  • Maybe not a northern thing?
  • Greg Pierce gets nerdy about it

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In this member-exclusive episode, we grade common PC connectors. (Really.)

Casey is ordering Apple Vision Pro on day one, and everyone knows it except Casey.

• Pre-show: Dad Dreams
• Follow-up:
  • New watch bands will actually be… cases? (via Videoalex)
    • Swatch example
    • NATO straps
  • Time-shifting was successful
  • OLED iPad Pros will also break the bank
  • Apple 🤝 AWS
    • Retrieval Augmented Generation
    • How LLMs work
  • People… write answers for Alexa‽ 🤯
  • Incase 🤝 Microsoft
    • The Verge article
• Vision Pro launches 2 February
  • Vision Pro will have 16GB RAM
  • YouTubers will get two demos
  • Apple’s “Get Ready” ad
    • Previously: “Hello”
  • Apple is very particular about how you represent “Vision Pro”
  • Apple is offering Vision Pro demos
  • Apple Vision Pro focal distance?

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Our 2024 year in preview.

• Pre-show: Time-shifting
  • Dave Matthews Band Crew Q&A
• Follow-up:
  • AI Agita
    • Apple’s paper regarding optimizing on-device LLM
      • Summary by luokai
    • Apple explores AI training deals with news publishers
    • New York Times sues OpenAI & Microsoft for copyright infringement
    • Hard cases make bad law
  • Masimo Mess
    • 26 December: Biden administration does not overturn ban
    • 27 December, 11:55 AM: Ban temporarily paused by US Court of Appeals
    • 27 December, 5:21 PM: Apple Watch sales resumed
• Apple 2024 Preview
  • PolyCam
  • AirPods 4 Redesign?
  • Side-loading in the EU
• Post-show: Yearly Themes
  • YouTube video

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John gives us all a special gift.

• Pre-show: Running public sound
  • Automixing
  • Sound Devices Mix Pre-10 II
  • Zoom F8n
  • Zoom LiveTrak L8
  • Reminder that gift memberships make for a great last-minute gift!
• Follow-up:
  • iCloud.com login with only a password
    • Apple Store experience (via Morgan Schönberger)
    • More details via Ian Williamson
    • icloud.com/find
    • Joanna Stern’s prison interview
  • Beeper → Beeped
    • Blog post
    • MacRumors
  • Virtualization options for macOS
    • UTM was recommended by several, including Luke Channings and Glenn Brown
    • Steve Troughton-Smith’s write-up
  • Is Masimo a patent troll?
    • The Verge article
    • LA Times article from October
    • Apple working on a software workaround?
    • Against Intellectual Monopoly, by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine
      • Against Intellectual Monopoly (PDF)
  • EVs that [allegedly] satisfy all of Rangachari Anand’s requirements
    • Rick Gore really likes VAG
      • e-tron GT
      • e-tron Q4
      • e-tron Q8
    • Daphne Sakellarides suggests the Hyundai Kona
    • Doug Spry reiterates Casey’s pick of the Chevy Bolt
    • Thestrategery recommends the Mini Cooper SE
    • Sam Abuelsamid
      • Honda Prologue
      • Acura ZDX
      • Mercedes EQB
    • Chevy Blazer EV
  • On car controls
    • Volkswagen reneges on all the crummy controls
    • Sam Abuelsamid’s take
• iPhone 16 “Capture Button”
• Next Apple Watch breaks band compatibility? 😱
• Google loses antitrust case to Epic
  • Stratechery (Paywalled)
• #askatp:
  • Do Nvidia & Apple mean different things by the word “core”? (via Ammar)
  • If Apple really does make Siri better, will it land in existing HomePods? (via Ryan McDonough)
  • A complete 🤬 trainwreck of a third #askatp. No spoilers.
    • Hauppage!
• Post-show Neutral: Marco’s adventure
  • Maxtrax

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• Follow-up:
  • Apple devices and OLED burn-in
    • iPhone XS burn-in (via David Gian-Cursio)
    • iPhone 11 Pro burn-in (via Jamieson Weiss)
    • Apple Watch Series 5 & iPhone 13 Pro Max (via Keith)
    • Apple Store diagnostics
  • Stolen Device Protection in iOS 17.3 beta
    • Maybe “trusted locations” is unwise? (via Russell Quinn)
    • How does this work with two-factor? (via Richard Harris)
  • Exceptions to 🇪🇺 battery legislation (via Matthaus Woolard)
  • Vexed has been ported to iOS (App Store link)
  • Apple updates “required reasons” for certain APIs
  • Resetting your only Apple device
• Apple Halting Sales of Apple Watch Series 9 & Ultra 2 in 🇺🇸
  • Six Colors
  • Software workaround in the works?
• Adobe 💔 Figma
• Old TestFlight data leaked
  • Steve Troughton-Smith
  • Rairii
• #askatp:
  • What’s the best way to run old versions of OS X in 2023? (via Thom Bullock)
    • VMWare Fusion
    • Parallels
    • VirtualBox
  • Rangachari Anand wants us to find them an EV
    • Requirements
      • Does not have a full glass roof
      • Has a sunroof that opens
      • Has physical HVAC, gear, seat controls
      • Adaptive cruise control
      • CarPlay
      • Gauge cluster (or HUD)
      • Center screen not safety critical
    • Chevy Bolt
    • Kia EV6
    • IONIQ 5 N
    • BMW i3
  • How’s Callsheet doing? (via Josiah Katz)
    • Upgrade #491: The 2023 Upgradies
    • Apple Design Awards
• Post-show: The evolution of the App Store awards

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The Beeper battle, governments spying on push notifications, Stolen Device Protection, and a fun toy from 24 years ago.

• Pre-show: Cauterized pants
• Show administrivia
  • 🎄🕎 NEW MEMBER’S SPECIAL!! 🕎🎄
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• Follow-up:
  • More on Apple’s Blue Ocean
    • The 🇪🇺 is doing 🇪🇺 things
    • …and Apple is doing Apple things
  • 📟 Battle
  • Yet more on ECC RAM from Jonathan Dietz Jr.
    • Micron whitepaper
  • US fabs and semiconductor business (via Joe Lion)
  • Sonos Roam audio skipping
    • Report #1
    • Report #2
    • Report #3
    • Report #4
    • Report #5
  • How does AWS S3 Glacier store data more cheaply than S3?
  • Photos.app processing tied to… external monitors? 🤨
• Governments are spying via push notifications
  • Wyden’s original letter
  • Patriot Act
  • Gruber’s take
  • Apple 🇺🇸 guidelines
  • Apple non-🇺🇸 guidelines
• Stolen Device Protection
  • Original article by Joanna Stern & Nicole Nguyen
  • Follow-up
  • 9To5Mac explainer
• #askatp:
  • Are we worried about burn-in on our iPhones? (via Will Leinweber)
  • Does Marco consider embracing Swift & SwiftUI in line with his “extreme minimalism” for libraries? (via Julian Gamble)
  • Do we like the Action Button? (via Torstein)
• Post-show: Marco’s new desk toy
  • Photo next to an iPhone 15 Pro
  • John’s game: Vexed (also on PalmDB)
  • Marco’s games: Rally 1000 (clone of Mille Bornes) and Hearts
  • AvantGo
  • Toshiba e740

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What we're looking forward to — or not — this holiday season.

Mr. Liss goes to New York.

• Follow-up:
  • Other People’s Code
    • Audio sample
    • Laura Savino’s Talk at CppCon 2023
  • AirJet cooling a MacBook Air
    • Previously on ATP
  • Keycap replacements at Apple Stores?
  • Apple Stores will price-match?
  • Maybe use KidArt for kid… art? (App Store link)
  • How does Thunderbolt 5 “Bandwidth Boost” work?
  • Idiosyncrasies of ECC RAM
  • Apple 🤝 Amkor
  • Apple 💩-cans 5G modem development?
  • …but there’s always 6G…
  • John’s window-dragging bug continues in 14.2 beta 5
• Please fix Find my Friends sharing, Apple
• Beeper Mini brings iMessage to Android… like, for real for real. 😱
  • Quinn’s video overview
  • System76
• Apple’s Blue Ocean
  • Fewer clients. Less money. (Jerry Maguire)
• Post-show Neutral: Trip Report
  • ATP Eats: John’s of Bleecker Street
  • Emilio’s
  • Branchinelli’s

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Chip-packaging advances, modern ECC, iPhones adopting RCS, satellite-SOS pricing options, Thunderbolt 5, the joy of moving, and our fitness journeys.

• Pre-show: Moving is not fun.
  • Marie Kondo
• Follow-up:
  • Apple fixes worn keycaps (via Ezekiel Elin)
  • OpenAI
    • Sam Altman Reinstated
    • Five Days of Chaos
  • Tip for buying smart thermostats (via Neil Weinstock)
    • Dominion Energy’s offerings
  • Marco’s many-taps Ecobee
  • Chip packaging
    • Introductory videos on packaging
      • Brief History of Semiconductor Packaging
      • Stacking Dies for Performance & Profit
  • ECC RAM in Apple Silicon (via Grady Borders & Joe Lion)
• Green bubbles get slightly less 🤢?
  • RCS
  • Yes, still green bubbles
  • SMS & MMS & iMessage
• Apple extends free 🛰️ emergency services
  • Garmin inReach
• Thunderbolt 5
  • C2C caberQU
• #askatp:
  • Can John take us on a tour of his recommended TVs? (via Gary Owen)
    • Sony A95L
      • Digital Trends review
      • HDTVTest review
      • HDTVTest “Best TV of 2023” test
      • 65” at Amazon
    • LG G3
      • HDTVTest review
      • 65” at Amazon
    • RTings.com OLED burn-in tests
      • 20 November 2023
      • 5 October 2023
    • Sony X95L
      • HDTVTest review
      • Digital Trends review
      • 85” on Amazon
    • Sony X90L
      • HDTVTest review
      • Digital Trends review
      • 65” on Amazon
    • Digital Trends best TVs of 2023
  • Have we ever had iCloud randomly revert a file? (via Stephen Towler)
    • How macOS Sonoma has changed iCloud
    • iCloud Drive in Sonoma: FileProvider and eviction
    • Google Drive has its own “oops”
  • Which apps should be blocked from refreshing in the background? (via Marcos Vinícius Petri)
• Post-show: Moving is fun.
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  • Apple Fitness+
  • Casey’s current program
  • Marco’s trainer
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  • Couch to Barbell

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OpenAI's turmoil, M3 Max thermals, keyboard wear, and the Humane Ai Pin.

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  • Keyboard wear
    • Finger grease (via Ryan Holmes)
      • ABS plastic
      • PBT plastic
    • A true horror show (via Andrew)
  • MacBook Pro thermal tests
  • More about chip packaging
    • Johny Srouji interview from July 2023
      • Timestamp link to clip cited
    • Stratechery with Pat Gelsinger
    • Universal Chiplet Interconnect Express
  • ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED just will not die
    • Stack Overflow question
    • Tailscale’s patch (via Gil Pedersen)
    • Anonymous info
      • QUIC
      • HTTP/3
      • migrate_sessions_on_network_change
    • SpaceX’s extremely dubious technical choices
• OpenAI
  • The Verge headlines/coverage
    • Sam Altman fired as CEO of OpenAI
      • Blog post
    • Twitch co-founder Emmett Shear is the new CEO of OpenAI
    • Microsoft hires former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman
    • Hundreds of OpenAI employees threaten to resign and join Microsoft
    • Is Sam Altman joining Microsoft? Satya Nadella doesn’t seem to know
  • Net promoter score
• #askatp:
  • What ever happened to ECC RAM, now that Apple Silicon is here? (via Tim Schmitz)
  • How do we photograph kid art (via Chris Gleim)
    • Procreate
  • Does tech actually improve our lives? (via Jamie West)
    • Automators #140: LimitLiss Automations with Casey
• Post-show: Humane ai pin
  • Product launch video
  • TED Talk

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Our initial M3 Max MacBook Pro impressions, details on M3-family SSD performance, more enthralling content about body oils, and Marco's self-created need to go to a hardware store.

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• Follow-up:
  • Face ID is also an accessbility affordance (via Todd Scheresky)
  • Uses for 🛢️👃🏻 (via Jamie West)
  • Microwaves
    • The modern knob (via Nate)
    • There’s such a thing as too much (via Kieth Bradnam)
  • Scanning old photos
    • Ryan’s procedure
    • Todd Vaziri’s advice
      • ScanCafe
  • Possible laptop improvments (via Nathaniel Velez)
    • CNET review
    • Mr. Clean Magic Eraser
    • Melamine foam
  • Apple explains dynamic caching (via Gokhan Avkarogullari)
    • Metal Profiling Tools
    • Performance Best Practices for Shaders
    • Memory is now unified within the GPU (via Jonathan Ragan-Kelley)
  • M3 SSD speed vs. M3 Pro SSD speed
  • SSD price graph (via CG)
  • Mac laptops have had the same base RAM since 2017 (via David Schaub)
    • Jobs vs. Cook
• Marco and Casey’s new laptops
  • MaxTech video on M1 vs. M2 vs. M3 speeds
  • Other Video Transcoding
  • Migration Assistant
  • Thunderbolt 4 Pro Cable
  • Jason’s cursed screenshot
• #askatp:
  • What is a “neural engine”? (via Richard Levitt)
    • Tensor Processing Units - YouTube
    • How does the ANE work internally?
    • SIMD
    • MMX
  • How often should bugs on beta OSes be reported? (via Mike Hoffman)
    • ATP #324: Automatic Kicking Machine
  • Is there a way to get Photos.app’s geotag metadata into the actual files? (via Santiago)
• Post-show: Marco’s hardware adventure
  • Nest Thermostat
  • Ecobee Thermostat

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John's experience working on the ATP CMS… by writing PHP, a language nobody ever truly learns.

iPhones as pro video cameras, the politics of base configurations, and the knob-microwave lifestyle.

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  • John’s toaster journey
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• Follow-up:
  • Apple Event was “shot on iPhone”
    • Behind the Scenes
    • The Verge’s silly take
    • Stu Maschewitz’s overview
  • David Steer in defense of the M3-plain MacBook Pro
    • Luke Miani’s video
  • Base configs make a difference, according to Ewan Makepeace
  • Still no Face ID (via Tomer Shemesh)?
  • 8 GB RAM has been the MacBook Pro baseline since 2014
  • Dynamic Caching (via Nitesh Singh)
  • The small-capacity SSDs are better now?
    • Luke Miani
  • Apple Silicon packaging and a potential M3 Ultra
    • F Häusler’s updated diagram
  • AnandTech confirms odd memory quantities (via Cameron McKay)
  • More thoughts from Jonathan Dietz, Jr
  • A new ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED error report has entered the chat
• MacBook Pro order updates
• #askatp:
  • How do we manage our physical photos? (via Steven)
  • Why should we care about hardware AV1 decoding? (via Jack Johnson)
  • How do we convince our loved ones to upgrade hardware? (via Christian Heile)
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The M3 family, the new MacBook Pro lineup, and the updated iMac from Apple's Scary Fast event.

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  • Mack Weldon Ace Sweatpants
  • Relwen Vertical Insulator jacket
• Apple’s October event
  • Stephen on M1 & M2 Rollout History
  • Oddities between M1 Pro and M3 Pro
  • Johny Srouji interview
  • Annotated die diagrams
• Post-show: Hypothetical boxed lunches
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  • Wenzel’s Farm Teriyaki Beef Sticks

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Another Apple Pencil (?!), a surprise Scary Fast announcement, and finding a Sonos oasis after years in the HomePod wilderness.

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  • Apple price hikes
  • Membership FAQ
  • Want to pay us more? Here’s how!
• Follow-up:
  • Rivian sounds are based on nature
    • 20k Hz: Auto-Tone
  • Updating iPhones in-box
    • iPhones can be charged through the existing retail box
    • What if the update is downloaded, but not applied?
    • Relevant Apple patent?
  • On M2 vs. M1 Efficiency (via Jonathan Dietz, Jr.)
    • Anand Shimpi on Andru Edwards’ show
  • iTunes Match, Apple Music, and DRM
    • It’s all Panzer’s fault
    • Apple Music gives you iTunes Match, DRM-free (via Sylvan Germer)
  • Getting music onto an iOS device without a computer
    • Custom ringtones (via tact)
  • ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED rumbles on
    • TheJesusFish
    • Stephen Hackett
    • mort
• Apple Pencil (USB-C)
  • Dan Moren’s Take
  • 9to5Mac Summary
  • Upgrade #482: It’s Covered in Soap!
• October event
  • Mac OS / Finder logo animation
  • AnandTech on 3nm
  • Chart on Wikipedia
  • AnandTech updates on 3nm
  • Earnings call transcript
• Everyone talks about their Sonos experiences (this is not #sponcon)
  • Roam (aka John’s Toblerone)
  • Amp
  • Sub (Gen 3)
  • One
  • Era 100
  • Era 300
  • Move
  • Five
  • Move 2
  • Giancarlo Esposito
  • Sonos Voice Control Capabilities
• Post-show: ATP membership changes

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What we'd like to see from Apple this fall, regardless of what the rumor mill says.

• We absolutely and unequivocally condemn the murder and kidnapping of innocent civilians.
  • Casey Neistat’s video
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• Follow-up:
  • Will Kiefer, Rewind.ai’s CTO, has some FU
  • iPhone 15s have a new battery setting
    • Apple knowledge base
  • watchOS optimized charging
    • Why is my Apple Watch not charging to 100%?
  • iPad/iPhone Photo Backups
    • Paid Flickr accounts can do it (via Jonathan Freese)
    • Dropbox for iOS
    • Dan Lithio’s suggestions
      • PhotoSync (App Store link)
      • Google Photos
    • Synology Photos (via René Fouquet)
    • OneDrive Photo Backup (via Ping Lu)
    • Amazon [Prime] Photos (via Chris Cioffi)
  • On Photos remembering crop aspect ratios in 14.1
  • John’s Docker/Chrome problems
    • 17 June 2019: ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED when Docker networks changed
    • 15 November 2019: ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED is fired when no changes done to the network
    • 29 March 2021: Chromium aborts with ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED even when irrelevant network-interfaces change
    • 29 September 2021: Re-creating a docker container disrupts video call (ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED)
    • Orbstack suggested by Gavin Harris
    • Colima
  • AirPods Pro for hearing protection
    • Upgrade #481: What If… Octobox?
    • Couldn’t handle a monster truck rally
    • Why I Wouldn’t Use AirPods Pro for Hearing Protection
    • Dr. Sameul Levine’s take
• Apple’s October event: what should be done?
• Gurman’s report on flashing unopened iPhones
• #askatp:
  • What focal lengths would we choose for our phones? (via Luke Askwith)
    • Mac Power Users #713: Photography with Tyler Stalman
  • Can one add music on iOS without a computer? (via Nick)
  • How do we protect our Synologies? (via Roch Ripley)
• Post-show: Unexpected Apple Watch Series 9 improvements

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John seeks input about a dilemma, weighing the pros and cons of tackling a new project.

The Rewind Pendant, alcantara in new places, using AirPods Pro at a concert, why schools love Chromebooks, and a thousand-year optical-disc journey.

• Follow-up:
  • Overall St. Jude winner: James Neal
  • John’s window bug
    • Polling rate does make a difference
      • Source video
    • Polling rate to window quantity experiment
      • Source video
  • Macs vs. Chromebooks in education (via John Weston & Steve Ligett)
    • Upgrade #480: Never Do a Deal with the Preference Daemon
    • Jason on Apple’s ∞ Permissions Dialogs
  • John gets his Photos.app wish
  • Off-center holes aren’t new
  • Alcantara iPhone cases
    • Alma
  • Casey’s ★★★★☆ iPhone case
  • In defense of the utterly ridiculous Razer phone coolers (via Adam)
    • Peltier effect
  • Revisiting tire pressure management systems (via Mattias Lindblad)
• Casey’s adventures with stop-charging-at-80%
• AirPods Pro 2 as concert earplugs
  • Soundbrenner Minuendo
    • Others tried: Eargasm, Etymotic ER20XS, Earpeace, Vibes, Mumba
  • CodaRoom Custom High-Fidelity Earplugs
• Rewind.ai Pendant
  • We Can Remember It for You Wholesale
• #askatp:
  • What makes Apple’s designs so much better? (via Buckaroo Ponzi)
    • P.A. Semi
    • Nuvia Acquisition
  • Do we segregate our user data? (via Alfred Flynn)
  • How can an iPad-first user back up their photos? (via Joseph Zoller)
• Post-show: An optical-disc journey
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  • Power Photos

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John insists on using his computer.

• Pre-show: Marco has thoughts on the FineWoven case
  • CHOCK’s medusa cable
• Follow-up:
  • John takes us on an adventure
    • FB13211706 — Window dragging is laggy and jumpy when more than one user is logged in
    • Demo video
    • Maybe it’s the video card?
    • What if it’s the mouse?
    • Oh no, the problem is inside the hmouse
    • Maybe Bluetooth will save us?
    • It’s not an Intel thing
    • Seemingly it’s any USB RF mouse?
    • …like, really?
    • It’s not just the one mouse, actually
    • oh no
    • ATP #115: Empathy for the Machine
    • ATP #96: The Windows of Siracusa County
    • Are we the baddies?
  • iPhone 15 Pro is overheating
    • The fix is here
• Low-cost MacBook rumor
  • Chromebook
  • Adam’s Chromebook
  • eMate 300
• #askatp:
  • How thin will phones really get? (via Joe Lion)
  • Do we ever MagSafe charge our MacBooks? (via Chriskast)
    • CalDigit TS4
  • Are we team light or team dark? (via Jack Mordoj)
    • Noir
• Post-show: Casey bravely performs an experiment 🫣

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Our iPhone 15 Pro impressions, case options, size choices, and an unexpected recording location.

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  • Modern 5G hotspots vs. tethering
  • Casey’s travel router
• 🤬 cancer. Help sick kids. Donate to St. Jude now.
  • The Marco Offset
  • Podcastathon Part 1
  • Podcastathon Part 2
• Follow-up:
  • John’s PR
    • …and Docker explorations
    • fish
  • iPhone 15 data transfers over USB-C
    • Samuel Polay’s Apple Store experience
    • Chris Jones’ experience
  • USB-A ↔ USB-C adapters (via Eric Merrill)
  • EdgeGate
    • LeakGate
    • Sharp Tech
  • CaseGate
    • Casey’s planned case
    • Anker USB-C cable (the cable that didn’t fit)
    • Umefly USB-C cable (the cable that does fit)
    • Apple silicone case (via Ben Rabicoff)
    • Viticci’s staining
    • Apple Store examples
    • Straps are the answer? (via Gem)
  • Apple & chip binning
  • A17 Pro is powerful but not efficient?
    • Razer Phone Cooler Chroma
  • People, Pets, & Places
• Initial iPhone reviews
  • Casey’s car in 3× & 5×
  • Goose in 3× & 5×
  • Lenses
  • John’s real bokeh
  • Post-processing an automatic portrait mode photo
  • Casey’s PopSocket
• Post-show: Marco discovers America

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