ATP Tier List: Automotive Logos
Somehow, we didn't want to murder each other this time.
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674: A Reliable, Boring Partner
Apple Creator Studio, the Gemini deal, the NBA on Vision Pro, and how Casey should spoil himself for his 50th birthday.
- Pre-show: Casey’s dreams were squashed
- Ubiquiti Travel Router
- Verizon Jetpack
- Marco’s hotspot (newer models exist; check for refurbs, they’re way cheaper than new)
- Solis Edge
- Follow-up:
- The
Grim ReaperFiOS CableCARD email came for John - Temporal dithering (via Kyle Foreman)
- Dagnabbit, the screen count is just too damn high
- Wi-Fi channel selection & size
- Wi-Fi
78
- The
- A tour of Apple- (or John-) relevant monitors from CES
- Apple Creator Studio
- Icons over time
- Photomator lives on… for now (via Chris Welch)
- Apple’s defense of the icons
- Jason on iWork freemium
- Apple 🤝🏻 Google
- Chase to become the new issuer of Apple Card
- Post-show: NBA Immersive
- Members-only ATP Overtime: The continuing disaster at Twitter
- Elizabeth Lopatto: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards
- Dan Moren: Apple cowardly still has not pulled X and Grok from the App Store
- Bloomburg: Musk’s Grok AI blocked in Indonesia, Malaysia over sexual images
- Robert Hart & Jess Weatherbed: X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UK
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673: Six Impossible Things
What we're most excited for in 2026.
- Pre-show: Casey has a question for Marco
- Thank you, ATP Patrons!
- Follow-up:
- Cord-cutting
- Multi-select in iOS Contacts.app (via many, including Simon Ljungberg)
- The Studio Display is $1600 (via Greg Seay)
- Display flickering (via Stephen Perelson)
- This started in late 2020 with Big Sur
- Temporal dithering (AKA Frame rate control)
- Stillcolor to disable temporal dithering on macOS
- BetterDisplay for turning on and off GPU dithering
- PlayStation Portal
- …works with PlayStation Plus
- …but really needs solid Wi-Fi
- …and doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6
- …and requires wired or first-party Bluetooth headphones
- Double-tap title bar to
Fill(via Chirag Desai)- Knowedge base
System Settings→Desktop & Dock→Window title bar double-click action→Fill
- Wi-Fi 7
- Ubiquiti’s Wi-Fi 7 implementation is not great (via Reid)
- WPA3 is not well supported (via USB Type-Steve)
- Alternatively, try band steering (via Patch)
- Wi-Fi Pro Abraham Vegh weighs in
- …as does pro Saul Sutherland
- John’s Eero Max 7 setup
- Thread vs. Matter
- Thread
- Matter
- Derek Seaman’s series
- To run Matter in HA, you need a separate container
- Apple Fitness+ and Quitter’s Day
- ASML & TSMC
- Tech stuff we’re looking forward to in 2026
- Post-show: Casey bought something silly
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Strange form factor rumors for forthcoming iPhones
- The Information
- MacRumors
- Mockup image & video
- Jason’s & Stepen’s posts
- iPhone fold display quietly debuted at CES?
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672: Wi Hyphen Fi
The truth about Wi-Fi 7, the DRAM shortage, the state of Thread and Matter, and two of the worst (or best?) proposals to improve macOS window management.
- Pre-show: Comply TrueGrip MAX for AirPods Pro 3
- Follow-up:
- Contacts
- Contact lists are a thing (via Dayton Lowell)
- Some non-obvious complications (via Paul)
- Face ID & Touch ID
- Older folks really do struggle with Touch ID (via Harrison Krebs & Kurt Schwind)
- Strictness (via Rob Sayre)
- John’s Liquid Glass bug in macOS 26.2 (via Gui Rambo)
- Some more about Podcasts.app and background execution (also from Gui)
- RAM shortage
- Data portability
- Git
- Github will still sink its talons into you (via Simon Jodet)
- Xcode 🤝 Git (via Tom Hartnett)
- Android ↔ iOS
- Git
- Display flicker in Tahoe
- What does this even mean? (via Daniel)
- One theory (via Sean Santry)
- Some corroboration (via Philip Hofstetter)
- Contacts
- Wi-Fi 7 is a bust
- Ask ATP:
- What’s the difference between minimizing and hiding windows on macOS? (via Michael Krewson)
- Post-show: What the heck is the deal with Thread/Matter
- Home Assistant
- Nanoleaf Smart String Lights
- Lutron Caséta (former sponsor)
- YoLink
- Members-only ATP Overtime: iMac Pro… phoenix?
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671: Even Apple Can’t Beat the Sun
Celebrating the holidays with a festive deep dive on iPhone 18 and XX rumors!
- Pre-show: Christmas-slideshow time
- Follow-up:
- Paris Buttfield-Addison’s locked Apple ID
- Chat math
- Metadata thread splitting & merging
- Colin spells it out for us
- TV Everywhere
- XMLTV
m3u8- IPTV Github Repo
- 🚨 Proceed with caution 🚨 StreamEast
- 506 Sports
- Custom pronunciations in iOS
Accessibility→VoiceOver→Speech→PronunciationsAccessibility→Read & Speak→Pronunciations- Apple video guide
- Tahoe Studio Display flickering
- Malicious content delivery in Apple Podcasts
- iPhone roadmap
- iPhone XX rumor roundup
- Apple exploring touch-sensitive iPhone cases
- Ask ATP:
- How do we manage our contacts? (via Tyler Kindy)
- How do we use version control? (via Dmitry Myronenko)
- 🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing!
- Post-show: John’s bug
- FB21375029
- Sample project
- Members-only ATP Overtime: RAM shortage, or the flip-side of the Apple Intelligence RAM dividend
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670: Institutionally Inescapable
We all just wish our families would be more impressed by our TVs.
- Pre-show: Marco joins team snow tires
- i3: 155/70R19
- XC90: 275/40R21
- Molex
- F-150 Lightning’s demise
- 🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing!
- 🗣️ New ATP Members Special: ATP Movie Club: WarGames
- Follow-up:
- Some impromptu spoiler-free follow-up about the member’s special
- John’s Cloudflare update
- Marco’s former TV (via Wayne Morgan)
- Apple executive departures
- Jeff Williams has been nominated to join Disney’s board
- Would Johnny Srouji consider Rivian? What about NVIDIA?
- Apple 2030 & carbon credits (via Zach)
- Split iMessage groups (via sirshannon)
- AI-generated voice-matched dubbing
- Fran Besora tried the Spanish version
- Stefanus Secundus tried the German version
- Ben Mattison had an odd YouTube experience
- Siri and pronunciations (via Paul Zadunajsky)
- Intel
stealinglearning from chips it fabs- Thread by Joe Lion
- Jason Biatek points out this is all basically cryptography
- Migrate Purchases (via James Wilby)
- Paris Buttfield-Addison got locked out of his Apple ID… because of a gift card
- Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers
- Dominic Preston at The Verge
- From the past: Blockbuster’s reaction to Netflix
- Paramount launches hostile $108B bid
- Post-show: Casey asks for programming help
- Members-only ATP Overtime: The State of TV
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669: Ternus, Take the Wheel
More Apple-executive turnover, and the risks and upsides of leadership change.
- Pre-show: Casey has a giggle about central Virginia snow
- Follow-up:
- Apple Fitness+ is doing better than the Mac Pro
- More adventures with Cloudflare
jramskov’s observation- TLS Certificate lifetimes
- Alternatively, GitHub Pages
- Some thoughts from an anonymous Cloudflare employee
- Oops… we broke it
- Say my name, Siri!
- Siri response preferences (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen)
- AirPods and Contacts (via Oren Idan)
- We’re… uh… sorry. Our bad.
- iOS 26 rollout 📈
- Intel 🤝 Apple Commentary
- Gruber is… not a fan… of Alan Dye
- Apple’s revolving door keeps spinning
- An anonymous observation
- Gurman, 6 December
- Gurman, 8 December
- Gurman’s departing executive tracker image
- Post-show:
- Messages conversation merging
- A feature request
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Watch & Mac mini are no longer advertised as “carbon neutral”
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668: So Happy for All Parties Involved
Christmas came early this year.
- Pre-show: Marco has a new toy
- Follow-up:
- Everybody is leaving Apple
- Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage
- Ask ATP:
- Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West)
serra queue sah- Siri, what’s my full name
- Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West)
- Post-show:
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 Intel?
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667: Wisdom and Treachery
Egg! Egg! Egg!
- Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy
- Follow-up:
- macOS Tahoe 26.2 β3 seems to fix Electron slowdown (per shamelectron)
- Gurman says “not so fast, my friend”
- Gaming in ARM
- Anti-cheat complications (via Tyler)
- Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw)
- OpenAI Egg update
- Apple N1 > Broadcom
- An iPhone camera cluster theory
- The UK is still trying to
make fetch happenget themselves a back door
- Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review”
- Fast charging & battery health
- Ask ATP:
- Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott)
- What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen)
- Is organizing
/Applicationsa poor choice? (via Nathan) - Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv)
- Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we ever be forced to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott)
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666: We Have Nothing That Hot
The rumored end of the Mac Pro, the rumored end of Tim Cook's CEO tenure, and the resurrection of matte screens.
- 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
- ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It — 16 October 2023
- Follow-up:
- The origin of “diamond dogs” (via Jared Counts)
- Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble)
- Steam Machine
- PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via Jesús Santaigo Narváez)
- Steam Frame
- Lenses (via Michael)
- Spec chart (via James O’Loughlin)
- Top strap image
- Steam → Apple Vision Pro using ALVR (via Iain Wallace)
- SteamOS
- Is not universally supported (via DavidSchaub)
- Alternatives (via solmnmagus)
- Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)
- Screw it, I’m installing Linux
- Steam strategy
- Is Steam-on-ARM popular?
- Steam has only one person to answer to (via charlesesmith)
- Single thread performance ranking (via Steven Op de beeck)
- “High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn)
- John mourns the recent news
- GPU issues (via Colin Cornaby)
- GeekBench Metal scores
- The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor
- Tim Cook to step down as early as next year
- Post-show: Declan discovers “HyperCard”
- Members-only ATP Overtime: The App Store on the web
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Marco seeks input about a dilemma, weighing the pros and cons of tackling a new project.
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665: My Basement Is Beautiful
Apple's new phone… holder, Steam's new hardware, and slightly more evidence that CD-Rs are S-tier.
- Follow-up:
- John has some new Vision Pro treats
- In the defense of the CD-R (via Jonathan Goforth)
- Auto-generated chapters in Apple podcasts
- We’re dummies: ATP has a [chapter-free] bootleg
- Some more technical details (via Stephen Robles)
- New MacBook Pro design is for M6 Pro & Max only?
- Tahoe & Electron app fixes
- Discord is fixed (via Dayton Lowell)
- Microsoft Teams Classic is likely to never get fixed (via Adam Wunn)
- macOS Emoji Picker
- ⌃ ⌘ Space
- Rocket
- Pogo-stick robot
- A butt-dialing theory from Trey Carpenter
- iPhone Pocket
- iPod Socks
- New Steam Hardware
- Post-show: Marco goes to Home Depot
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Affinity graphics apps go free, and some people are upset
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664: Humanity Gets in the Way
AI podcast-chapter generators were never designed to handle us.
- Pre-show: Casey dropped his 17 Pro
- 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
- An aside about podcast chapters and Apple’s recent news
- Follow-up:
- The current MacBook Pro design is from the M1 (via Ben Mattison)
- More dashed Mac Pro dreams
- Apple’s internal chip codename nomenclature
- Variants
P= A_G= A_X / A_Z / M_S= M_ ProC= M_ MaxD= M_ UltraX= M_ Pro/Max/Ultra
- Examples
A11=H10PA12X=H11GA14=H13PM1=H13GM2 Pro=H14S
- GPUs use
Ginstead ofH - More island/chip names from 26.1 RC:
Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/arm/cpuid.hXcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/mach/machine.h- Apple codenames
- John’s tale of Xcode 26.1 woe
- John’s un-fixed Electron apps
- More clipboard history options in macOS 26.1
- M5 MacBook Pro speed tests
- Casey has tried the new Developer Strap
- An aside about nanotexture displays
- Casey upgraded to Tahoe
/r/overcast- Post-show: Marco plays with 3D printing
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663: Defending the Honor of The Cheesecake Factory
Bold MacBook Pro rumors, Liquid Glass gets frosted, whether Tahoe is a safe upgrade yet, and more experiences with the Vision Pro.
- Pre-show: Marco’s airplane neighbors
- 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- Vision Pro
- Mac Virtual Display
- On Intel it’s only up to 3K 🤭 (via Thomas Cheng)
- Apple Support
- Tapping-and-holding × allows for hiding other windows (via Nick Anthony)
- Vision Pro vs. ski goggles
- Mac Virtual Display
- Apple 🤝 Vapor Chambers
- Would it come to the MacBook Air (via Andy Lang)
- Coming to the iPad Pro?
- Apple’s MLS deal
- John’s Shortcuts bug
- Calum’s example
- Fleedar’s example
- lukens77 on Reddit (via eurozerozero)
- Is it all Shortcuts-related files?
- Fixing the “iconic plateau” (via Gordon Mcdowell)
- The Cheesecake Factory does, apparently, make everything fresh
- Vision Pro
- Mac Rumors
- 𝓍OS 26 β4 includes Liquid Glass toggle
- iOS/iPadOS:
Settings→Display and Brightness - macOS:
System Settings→Appearance - Example image
- Lock Screen swipe for camera can now be disabled, too
Settings→Camera→Lock Screen Swipe to Open Camera
- iOS/iPadOS:
- Is Tahoe safe yet?
- Post-show: More of John’s impressions of the Vision Pro
- Members-only ATP Overtime: How does one actually make an app? (via not that coach mike)
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662: Just Break the Law
Finally, we have all taken a trip together to Mount Hood.
- Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose
- 🗣️ New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One 🗣️
- An aside about outerwear
- 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- Recognition corner
- Casey begs for help
- Callsheet
Listbug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉 - However,
Menu(::primaryAction:)is broken (FB20755661)
- Callsheet
- Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications
- The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement
- The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions
- EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via Nick Heer)
- UK is the same though
- The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz)
- The M5 Vision Pro
- Dual Knit Band
- HDCP
- Television
- Theater
- New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall)
- Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝🏻 F1 in 🇺🇸
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661: Intimate and Regimented
The surprise M5 special!
- Follow-up:
- Languages in Scotland
- ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler)
- Slide Over fade animation (via Daniel Luz)
- Marco’s iPhone case survey: Ryan London bare bottom (via Oliver Thomas)
/u/LaughingMan11is Benson Leung (via Deta & Daniel Luz)- ZFS and the Drobo dream (via Joe)
- An aside for an argument
- Apple M5
- M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC
- M5 MacBook Pro
- M5 iPad Pro
- M5 Vision Pro
- Apple TV+ is now Apple TV
- Post-show: iPhone setup, take two
- Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete
- Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way
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660: It’s All Chicken Salad
Apple's ICEBlock takedown, AirPods Pro 3 comfort improvements, Live Translation tests, iPhone 17 Pro cases, and expanding the Goose fanbase.
- Pre-show: Marco’s “Vacation” results
- Goose
- Allianz Ampitheater
- Chicken Salad Chick
- Nugs.net
- ZZQ
- Suggestions from Casey, in no particular order:
- Follow-up:
- ATP in the wild
- Original report form Richard Earney
- Follow-up by Matt Smith
- Follow-up on Mark Christian’s report by Santiago Hervella
- Original report form Richard Earney
- AirPods 3
- Ear Lottery
- Michael corroborates Marco’s experience
- …but Franklin Delano Stallone offers hope
- …and sometimes AirPods 3 are a marked improvement, reports Matthew Schaffer
- Tony Dehnke does an ANC comparison
- Live translation results
- Ear Lottery
- David Schaub’s horror story about filling up your phone
- Mike Taffet does science on iPhone ↔ iPhone transfers
- Marco’s USB odyssey
- Synology alternatives
- Colin McKellar suggests QNAP
- See also:
- 🎉 …may not be necessary anymore! 🎉
- ATP in the wild
- More more first impressions
- Quick AirPods Pro 3 update
- iPhone case updates
- Omar Shahine performs surgery on the Nomad back
- Torras clear case
- Bullstrap open-bottom leather case
- Peak Design Everyday Case (Charcoal color has the good fabric)
- Still to test: Süti PhoneBack in black leather, if it ever ships
- iOS 16
- iPadOS 26: Now with slide-over!
- Apple pulls ICEBlock from the App Store
- Post-show: Pour one a Sprite out for a real one TiVo
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659: Lose the Ear Lottery
Cases and bumpy starts with our new iPhones, our reviews of the AirPods Pro 3, and a baffling USB odyssey.
- Pre-show: Eh, that’ll keep…
- 🗣️ St. Jude time is almost done! 🗣️
- 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Dev: Computer Science Curriculum
- Follow-up:
- ATP in the wild (via Mark Christian & Richard Earney)
- iOS 26.0.1 allegedly fixes N1 Wi-Fi/BT issues
- What does iCloud back up? (via Dayton Lovell)
- iCloud for Messages
- A ringing endorsement from Nick
- A potential fix for ∞ GIFs (via Nathan)
- iPhone Transfers
- Why not pre-populate them, Kindle-style? (via Winnie Lewis)
- TestFlight is… better now? (via Daniel Nelson)
- Some thoughts from Nick
- Apple’s onboarding enshittification (via Imthaz)
- Thought to text & AlterEgo
- Firefox (1982)
- Prior MIT project (via Hannes)
- CJ’s thoughts
- More first impressions
- Ask ATP:
- How do we really know if something is encrypted? (via Joshua Wold)
- What is the point of neural engine cores, anyway? (via Tom Cole)
- SIMD
- Evaluating the Apple Silicon M-Series SoCs for HPC Performance & Efficiency
- AMX Units
- Neural Engine
- Does filling a phone SSD slaughter performance? (via Sean Harding)
- Post-show: Marco’s USB odyssey
- Members-only ATP Overtime: NAS Noodling
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658: Your First Mistake Phone
iPhone Air vs. iPhone 17 Pro in our daily lives… if Casey's transfer ever finishes.
- Marco’s AppleCare “Express” Replacement
- 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- Auburn’s colors are UVA’s colors (via Tony Scida)
- You don’t need the trick new Apple charger to charge an iPhone 17 at full speed
- iPhone Air
- Why people are buying the iPhone Air / 15” MacBook Air
- Bending the iPhone Air
- Apple (via Tom’s Guide)
- JerryRigEverything (timestamp link to 6m35s)
- Same video, different timestamp (7m37s)
- Battery life
- Speaker (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
- Thermals
- iFixIt Teardown
- Thickness
- Visual comparison of thickness (via Ludwig Schubert)
- Thin iPhone future? (via Ian)
- iPhone 17 Pro
- iPhone sales
- iPhone setup advice
- Casey’s tale of woe (see also Upgrade #582: First Chance to Make One Impression)
- First impressions: iPhone 17 Pro
- Scratchability
- Telephoto camera
- Post-show:
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- The Verge: Settlement announced, 5 September
- Previously, on ATP #656: Anthropic asked for $1.5B/yr from Apple
- The Verge: Settlement paused, 9 September
- Ars Technica, 9 September
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657: Ears Are Weird
An iconic plateau of follow-up.
- Marco 0️⃣ → 1️⃣
- 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
- Podcastathon 2025: Friday, noon → midnight EDT
- Stephen Hackett said the foldable will be the “iPhone Ultra”
- μm is a “micron”
- The iPhone Air battery pack does have a USB-C port after all
- iPhone 17 Pro requires a new adapter to charge at full speed
- A19 vs. A19 Pro
- A19 Pro benchmarks
- The N1 is in every new iPhone
- The whole of the iPhone Air is in the camera plateau
- Casey’s memory problems corner
- ATP #655 (Overcast timestamp link)
- The mmWave antenna window is back
- Logo placement on Apple’s cases
- Some funny renders from iPhone case makers
- Theories about the iPhone 17 Pro colors
- iPhone Air
- Will it bend?
- 17 was a last-second decision? (via Sam Henri Gold)
- Max Tech’s discoveries
- The Air does not have stereo speakers
- The Dynamic Island is lower than on other phones
- The USB-C port is not vertically centered
- No Cinematic Mode video, including the selfie camera
- The new selfie camera is actually a 24MP sensor
- No LiDAR scanner
- Air & 17 non-Pro are limited to USB 2
- Every new iPhone screen has the same specifications, save size/resolution
- iPhones 17 can now toggle screen flickering off
- Apple Watch
- Satellite data requires a cellular plan
- Jason & Greg Pierce agree
- Is “24-hour” battery claim because of a change in measurement?
- Underscore’s observations about the Ultra
- AirPods
- Ear shapes (via Tirial)
- About that “2×” noise reduction
- The new AirPods Pro case is not smaller
- “New generation of Ultra Wideband technology” is the U2 chip
- Live translation is on-device (not in ☁️)
- Live translation is blocked for EU users with EU Apple Accounts
- Safari on iOS 26’s compact toolbar
- Tahoe Toolbars (via Zhenyi Tan) * Frosting download link * Frosting test page
- Post-show: John’s red dot
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Alterego and “thought to text” translation
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656: A Long T-Shirt
The iPhone event! Reactions and analysis of the iPhone 17, 17 Pro, and Air; the Apple Watch Series 11, SE 3, and Ultra 3; and the AirPods Pro 3.
- 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
- iPhone event
- Post-show:
- Apple trade-in
- ✨ Tina’s dream has come true! ✨
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s competing implementations for the new Siri
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655: Shorts-Compatible Body Type
The iPhone 16 Pro's exit interview, what we're expecting to see next week in the iPhone 17 lineup, and a parade of fun euphemisms.
- Pre-Show: Trouble in Razer paradise
- 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- Casey has thoughts about the compact iOS 26 controls in Safari
Settings→Apps→Safari
- Apple device advice for those that are athletically engaged
- Place your phone face-down (via. A. O.)
- Sleep focus is an option (via A. M.)
- So is Theater Mode and, if taps are an issue, water lock (via Ryan)
- How to stop Siri from randomly activating all the damn time by D. Griffin Jones
- Fun fact: you can add it to the Health app! (via Niv Ben-Porath)
- A truly hilarious story from Anonymous
- Developing “product sense” (via Joseph Kibe)
- Casey has thoughts about the compact iOS 26 controls in Safari
- iPhone 16 exit interview
- iPhone event preview
- Crossbody strap
- Apple Natural Titanium Milanese Loop (Marco’s summer watch band)
- Post-show: Smaller e-ink note-taking tablets
- Members-only ATP Overtime: US government buys 10% of Intel
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654: Athletically Engaged
The final iOS 26 developer push, the upcoming iPhone event, and exciting news about… iPhone-case materials!
- Pre-Show: Casey and Marco are sad
- Follow-up:
- 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
- Anonymous crushes the dreams of Marco and Casey about cellular MacBooks
- Another Anonymous shares a bit too much information about accidental Siri activations 😆
- 🤬 John’s AppleCare One update 🤬
- Help with Trackpad dragging
System Settings→Accessibility→Pointer Control→Trackpad Options…→Dragging Style→Three Finger Drag- …or
Drag Lock
- Masimo comes for [more] blood
- UK drops utterly bananas backdoor legislation
- Studio Display with A19
- Daniel Luz points out makes a funny comparison to Macs
- Fabian Häusler theorizes it’s about binning
- Apple’s Hide my Email feature
- An unexpected wrinkle Timothy Martin points out
- Anecdote from David Beck
- Apple Event: 9 September 1PM OTTZ
- Interactive logo
- Reverse-engineering by sam henri gold
- “TechWoven” and “Liquid Silicone” cases leaked
- Maijin Bu on TechWoven
- …and on Liquid Silicone (and again)
- Apple will simplify the Camera Control button
- Ask ATP:
- What’s the ∆ between snapshots and backups? (via Phil Hirst)
- Why is Finder slow to delete files? (via Dan)
- How will Apple reconcile AI and carbon neutrality? (via Sam Hunt)
- Post-show: Some venting about politics and 𝓍26.
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Rumored Apple roadmap
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653: Warning Stories
Marco thought the bunnies were real.
- Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not… so… AI… slop
- Follow-up:
- Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone
- ☝️ Well, actually ☝️, myriad of is okay (via Jason Eccles)
- Are size classes similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey)
- John’s HomePod has risen from the dead!
- 🍿 John would like to air some AppleCare One grievances 🍿
- Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US
- 😳🥳 M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming‽ 🎉😳
- A19 Pro in Studio Display 2?
- Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry
CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes()- FB13375033
- Ask ATP:
- Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via Aaron Bushnell)
- Did Vehicle Motion Cues help John? (via Roly C.)
- How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli)
- Post-show: Oh yeah! 🗣️ New ATP Members special: ATP Insider: Vacations 🗣️
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs
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652: You Have 24 Hours to Comply
Apple’s latest design updates, developing product sense, AppleCare One friction, and endangered mice.
- Pre-Show: Marco and Casey’s no-good, very bad days.
- Follow-up:
- Casey didn’t read the fine print on Express Replacement 🤦🏻♂️
- John cycled his mouse again
- AppleCare One
- Moving a device on a payment plan (via “Clark Griswold” and Anonymous)
- Tina’s iPhone
- Tina’s Mac Studio
- Tahoe beta 5: checkbox contrast improves
- iOS 26 beta 6 Liquid glass changes
- Smart TV interfaces over time
- Running your own mail server
- How does iCloud-on-your-domain work? (via potato.zip)
- Hide my Email (via Peter Puleio)
- Jason Diller thinks it’s not so bad
- Post-quantum cryptography
- Harvest now, decrypt later (via Lisa Ugray)
- Since iOS 17.4 for iMessage (via Saul Sutherland)
- Compelled adoption (via Brian Jarvis)
- Chrome adopted it in 2024 (via sayrer)
- 2024: State of post-quantum internet
- 2025: Update
- John wages war against icons
- Adopting Liquid Glass: App Icons
- WWDC 2025 #361: Create Icons with Icon Composer
- John’s Mastodon thread
- Václav Slavík’s solution
- FB19437407
- FB19497128
- FB17892659
- There’s likely to be a lot more of this
- Ask ATP:
- Is Liquid Glass on macOS a subtle move toward touchscreen Macs? (via Daniel Liu)
- How does one build a “good product sense”? (via Ian Anderson)
- How does one effectively de-duplicate photos using Photos.app? (via Keith Heaton)
- Post-show: Marco’s air-conditioning “update”
- Members-only ATP Overtime: AI voice control as a threat to Apple’s platforms
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651: Your Judgement About Pockets
Apple’s Trump support, flagship TV UIs, beta design tweaks, Xcode’s appetite for disk space, and a safe space for Casey… but not his devices.
- Pre-Show:
- Brief vacation results
- Tim Cook kisses the… ring
- Follow-up:
- HDTVTest reviews Sony Bravia 8 II and Panasonic Z95B
- TV shootout results
- AppleCare One
- iCareCalculator Reddit post (removed by moderators)
- iCare Calculator web app
- John’s experience
- B&H
- Casey’s roughly equivalent Mac, available for special order
- Retro computing corner
- More on Tahoe
- Gus Mueller
- Beta 5 improves selection legibility
- Ejecting USB storage in Windows (via Justin Bradford)
- Art & science of UI design
- Game design concepts in software (via Wes Davis)
- iPhone 17’s rumored new MagSafe design
- Apple’s “Answers” team
- Ask ATP:
- How can one improve the experience of a permanent-mount SSD on a laptop?
- Why is Xcode so thirsty? (via Geoff)
- How are we dealing with spam? (via Alan Bailward)
- Post-show: Apple Express Replacement
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Post-Quantum Cryptography networking in the 𝓍26 OSes
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650: Whatever It Takes to Get the Laundry Folded
AppleCare One, the OS 26 public betas, and tensions between art and usability in interface design.
- Pre-Show: Casey’s french-fry problem
- Follow-up:
- D. Griffin Jones takes one for the team
- Casey’s struggles with
iperf3- Tutorial
iperf3 -t 60 -c {ip} -P 4 -i 10 -R
- John’s new toaster and
E01(via J-P Teti & John F.) - Chemical vs. physical sunscreen (via Prodan Statev)
- Apple security for unreleased devices
- Low-cost Apple laptop (via Jason Anthony Guy)
- Ed: Please don’t give Apple ideas like this. 🫣
- Getting customer support from Apple (via Patch)
- Apple support app → Chat
- Any retail store on Apple Maps →
...→Message
- CloudFlare & AI crawlers
- Thoughts from Thomas Schoffelen
- Thoughts from Aaron Zinck
- Thoughts from Anonymous
- The 𝓍26 public betas are out
- Tahoe beta 4
- Contrast will decrease until morale improves
- News summaries are back, baby! 😬
- Apple and interfaces
- Tog in Interface (1992)
- Tog on Software Design (1995)
- Apple’s Aqua introduction, Macworld San Francisco, 2000
- AppleCare One
- Dan Moren’s take
- The Verge
- Fees & deductibles
- FAQ (scroll way down)
- Post-show: John has an addendum to his earlier topic
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Frame of preference, an incredible exploration of the Mac’s settings by Marcin Wichary in concert with Mihai Parparita of the Infinite Mac Project
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649: Prove It With Cameras
Our broken and drowned electronics, Apple's lawsuit against Prosser, Cloudflare's power exercise, and Marco's solution to sunscreen.
- Pre-Show: Casey did Marco’s favorite thing
- CalDigit TS5+ (affiliate link)
- CalDigit TS5+ (product page)
iperf3
- Follow-up:
- F1 (the sport, not the movie)
- Apple expected to win 🇺🇸 rights
- John’s video != Casey’s immersive ride-along
- To see the immersive ride-along, you need to be wearing a Vision Pro; scroll down on that link
- John’s toaster update
- AirPods & AppleCare+
- Reverting to “normal” tabs in Tahoe (via ST-S)
defaults write -g NSSolariumWindowTabs -bool NO
- Low-cost Apple laptop with A18 Pro
- F1 (the sport, not the movie)
- Apple sues leaker Jon Prosser for stealing iOS secrets
- Cloudflare Declares Content Independence Day
- Press release
- ChangeDetection.io
- Stratechery (paywalled)
- Post-show: Marco solved sunscreen
- John’s hat that he likes
- John’s hat that is cheaper but that he likes less
- 🇯🇵 Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel (eBay)
- 🇪🇺 La Roche-Posay Anthelios UVmune 400 Invisible Fluid, Non-Perfumed (eBay)
- Australian sunscreen video
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648: Part of the Movement
Jeff Williams' retirement, Liquid Glass revisions, and our review of F1® The Movie. While supplies last. Terms apply.
- Pre-Show: Live music & failed air conditioners
- 🗣️ New ATP Members Special: Tier List: Pizza Toppings
- Follow-up:
- Meta Hires Top Apple AI Models Executive
- SFSymbols 🤝🏻 Tahoe Folders
- Standard SFSymbol:
xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"camera.viewfinder"}' folder - Private SFSymbol:
xattr-w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"solar.system"}' folder - Random string:
xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"emoji": "HIMOM"}' folder - FB18022272: “summary” symbol missing in SF Symbols 7 developer beta
- Standard SFSymbol:
- Toolbars
- Safari
- Beta 1 image
- Beta 3 image
- The Guardian (good example for messing around with the toolbar)
- Terminal
- iOS 26 Beta 3
- Safari
- YouTube’s new player UI
- “Clear” iPhone mock-up was by Gavin Nelson in April 2025
- HDR controls in iOS 26 (via Gui Rambo)
- ✌️ out, Jeff Williams
- Casey ponders the purpose of AppleCare
- Post-show: John & Casey review F1
- Plumber Problem
- Guenther Steiner
- Brad Pitt drives a F1 car for the first time
- Vision Pro Brad Pitt ride-along (Vision Pro users, scroll down)
- Casey’s pinball machine
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647: You Get One Exclamation Point
Job advice for CS graduates, whether external drives should be USB, Thunderbolt, or FireWire, and a draft of how we'd make the worst MacBook.
- Pre-Show: John’s almost an empty-nester 😱
- Follow-up:
- FireWire now with Thunderbolt! (via Timo Hetzel)
- Tahoe without Xcode beta:
Device Support for macOS 26 Beta - Putting older OSes on newer hardware (via Gui Rambo)
- UPS VA ratings (via Marshall C)
- Apple’s LLM/LRM paper (from Overtime in ATP #643)
- Training data vs. distribution (via Deon Garrett)
- Rebuttal
- Rebuttal of the rebuttal
- More from Gary Marcus
- The original rebuttal was… a joke? 🤨
- HDR in 𝑥26
- iPadOS 26 window limits
- “Glass iPhone” demo
- That “natural language to CLI” app is Substage
- Apple plans to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by… an iPhone CPU‽
- Ask ATP:
- Is adding permanent NVMe storage a bad plan? (via Neil)
- What’s the best way to increase “internal” storage on a Mac? iSCSI? Mounted disc images? (via Patrick Harms)
- How does a new grad land a job?
- Post-show: Casey’s approach to ad-free YouTube must be dissected
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s App Store changes for the EU
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646: On the Shelf With the Pickles
John made an important purchase.
- Pre-Show: John has made an important purchase
- Follow-up:
- We’re doing good work here, folks
- YoLink leak sensors
- Leak sensor 4-pack with compulsory hub
- Travel insurance is more than you think it is (via Jason Poole and Levi Dalton)
- Window widget size in Tahoe
- Apple Intelligence is now allowed when booting from an external in Tahoe beta 2
- Floating tab bars in iOS 26
- Apple “Ducks”
- Maybe don’t yank out removable storage in Windows either (via Adrian Mester)
- It’s the world that’s wrong, not me: iPhone 16 Pro case edition
- Ads in YouTube
- Why not use uBlock Origin? (via Igor Kulman)
- …or perhaps Vinegar (App Store link) (via Michael Brown)
- We’re doing good work here, folks
- RIP FireWire
- Apple marketing continues to misfire
- Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri
- Ask ATP:
- Is it worth buying a laptop where Tahoe is preinstalled? (via François-Olivier Leblanc)
- How much faster will an M4 be than an M1 for Xcode Simulator launches? (via Alistair Logie)
- How do we choose a new UPS? (via David Levine)
- Post-show: Marco restaurant-tech MVPs… from his co-hosts!
- Tailscale (Tailscale is a prior sponsor)
- YoLink temperature sensors (even cheaper with a smaller temp. range)
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645: More Frosting
macOS Tahoe and iOS 26 beta 2 updates, the latest AI-training kerfuffles, life with CarKey, and flagship OLED TVs.
- Pre-Show: Phish & Wabbit Dave Matthews Season
- Some Administrivia:
- 🗣️ New ATP Member’s special: ATP Movie Club: Sneakers 🗣️
- ATP Performance Shirt Inventory Sale
- Follow-up:
- Persistent icon replacement helper apps
- Tahoe beta 2
- Finder icon updated!
- New menu bar background setting!
- Tahoe’s [Not-So-] Naked Robotic Menu Bar (via Vítor)
- Safari toolbars (via Lewis Dorigo)
Settings→Advanced→Show color in compact tab bar<meta name="theme-color">theme_color- Yosemite Safari tabs
- From John’s review
- Installing betas and DFU mode
macvdmtool(via Robert Sherry)- DFU Blaster (via Brian LaShomb)
InstallAssistant.pkg(via Andy Beyer-Bowden)
- iOS 26 Beta 2
- Frost all the things!
- The case of Marco’s missing download/check buttons
- iPadOS 26 window limits (via Jon Edwards)
- “Apple Vision Pro 4K” (via Greg Kaplan)
- All your data are belong to AI companies
- Apple training models on Feedback attachments ಠ_ಠ
- Meta AI staffers take an interesting approach
- New York Times 🤝🏻 Amazon AI
- You can train AI models without copyrighted material… it’s just a pain in the 🍑
- Anthropic gets a W… maybe?
- Ask ATP:
- Does Marco use Apple CarKey? His car should support it. (via Samuel Polay)
- Why does macOS want USB mass storage ejected, but iPadOS doesn’t? (via David Campbell)
- Post-show: TV Update for Marco
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Overlap between appdev & gamedev
- Coyote time & jump buffering
- Secrets to a great platformer with Unity
- Destiny health
- Examples in our apps
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644: You Have to Invert
Impressions of iOS 26, macOS Tahoe, iPadOS 26, and Liquid Glass after a week of using the first developer betas. Surprisingly, we have thoughts.
- Pre-show: G4 Doorbell Pro
- What betas are we running?
- 𝑥OS 26 & Version Numbers
- iOS Apps built against old SDKs get
19.0; new ones get26.0(via Gui Rambo)ProcessInfo/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersionCompat.plist
- Tahoe returns
16when reqiured for compatibility and26otherwise (via Howard Oakley)SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1=16nullorSYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=0=26
- iOS Apps built against old SDKs get
- Liquid Glass
- Adopting Liquid Glass
- Not present in macOS? (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
- Liquid Glass clone in Flutter (via Dave Wood)
- Fluid Glass in React (via Francisco Tolmasky)
- macOS Tahoe
- Whimsy returns! (via Minimal Nerd)
- Squircle Jail
- Squircle ∆ (via Yannic Lung)
- Say Hello to the New Look of App Icons
- Squircle Jailbreak! (via Simon B Støvring)
- Speaking of rounded corners…
- Chonky stoplights
- macOS 26 window control buttons are no longer smol (via Avi Drissman)
-[NSTitledFrame sizeOfTitlebarButtons]
- Missing title bars
- Missing menu bar fixes
- Alignment
- Finder icon controversy
- Stephen tried Icon Composer with solid results
- Michael Flarup
- D. Griffin Jones
- Icons next to menu items
- Previously in the HIG (via Stefan Habel)
- Today in the HIG
- Tabs contrast
- Safari contrast
- Arrow cursor has been updated
- Floating elements & compartmentalization
- Clipboard history
- Future of Rosetta
- New disk image format:
ASIF
- iOS 26
- UI impressions
- New slider thumbs reveal new info (via Niki Tonsky)
- iPadOS 26
- Open window limits (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
- Slideover is 💀
- UI impressions
- Testing Liquid Glass
- Vision Pro 4K? (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
- Post-show: WWDC Favorites
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple snubbed Gruber, so who got the nod?
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643: You Go to Squircle Jail
Impressions and analysis from WWDC 2025: Apple's new universal UI design with "Liquid Glass", all of the new 26-series OSes using it, and the potential of the new Apple Intelligence APIs.
- Pre-show: Initial Switch 2 Reactions
- WWDC
- Post-show: RIP, John’s Mac Pro
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642: A Rebuilding Year
Hopes, dreams, and predictions for WWDC 2025… after an hour of U2.
- Follow-up:
- Vision Pro & John Siracusa Corner
- Bono: Stories of Surrender
- Open: An Autobiography
- Rattle and Hum
- Apple Immersive Screenshots:
- PSA: Plex privacy opt-out
- Apple/SwiftUI folks: a quick appeal, if you please
- Casey’s toot
- FB17661404
- WWDC hopes & predictions
- Post-show: Apple declines invitation to The Talk Show Live
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Sky: a new AI app for macOS
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641: We're Saving That for the Egg
Tiny EV trucks, what Jony and Sam might be making, and how Apple might turn around developer sentiment.
- Pre-show: ATP’s relationship with Apple
- Follow-up:
- SSD longevity details from an anonymous SSD firmware engineer
- Vision Pro on The Price is Right
- What are Jony Ive and Sam Altman building?
- Alexa Plus Update
- Neutral:
- Slate Truck Top Gear review
- TELO, a potential Slate competitor (via Kevin Ayers)
- There’s a Discord (via Kevin Cash)
- DeMuro’s review
- Classic Mini vs. Modern MINI
- Pickup beds over time
- Apple Turnover and Apple Turnaround
- Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple OS rebranding & macOS name predictions
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640: Put It in a Potato
OpenAI buys Jony Ive, the alleged AI story inside Apple, the potential for AI APIs, and why we all need to buy Aston Martins for our work.
- Pre-show: 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Top Four: Game Consoles 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- Home Networking Corner 🤝🏻 Vision Pro Corner
- SSDs and long-term storage was covered on Security Now #1023 (via Paul Chernoff)
- SpinRite (Intel-only)
- Fornite is back in the US App Store
- Gurman on the Apple Intelligence fiasco
- The EU App Store warning about external purchases isn’t new after all
- Apple to open AI models to developers?
- OpenAI buys Jony Ive’s AI company,
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- What was our favorite school camp/trip? (via Harrison)
- What’s the deal with the tire markings on the bootleg cover art? (via Josh Kincaid)
- Is there a good camera lens that’s also light? (via Matt Richardson)
- Post-show Neutral: CarPlay Ultra
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639: Crimp the World
Even John finally flipped.
- Pre-show: Marco’s [kinda] brief review of the M4 MacBook Pro
- Follow-up:
- Letterboxd SF Symbol
- Procured via volunteer Alyce D! 💙
- Custom Symbols App (App Store link)
- AI App Store summaries != spam email filtering (via Kevin Markham)
- “A fine is a price” (via Kieran Healy)
- Apple 🤝🏻 Anthropic
- Apple appeals App Store rule changes
- Riley Testut details changes to Delta’s IAP options
- More (Ed: 🤣🤣🤣)
- Meanwhile, in the App Store…
- Home networking corner
- Ubiquiti’s consumer line is Amplifi
- Try CubiCasa for floor plans (via Colin Robertson)
- What Unifi Stuff Should I Buy? (via Thunder God Cid)
- Casey’s sitrep
- 2× U6-LR installed
- 10GbE card installed in Synology
- Switches just arrived
- Camera time?
- Letterboxd SF Symbol
- Apple Turnover
- Some fun Apple media
- Backblaze drama
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ATP Top Four: Game Consoles
In a completely original podcast format, we rank our favorite videogame consoles.
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638: Hop, Hop, Hop
Hyperspace updates, more on Apple's in-app-purchase injunction, how to choose Ubiquiti gear (and when not to), and some actual vibe-coding (we think?).
- Pre-show: Chromebook-block evasions
- Follow-up:
- At least one person did miss our WWDC sale. 🙁
- Vision Pro Corner: StagePlay
- Epic vs. Apple
- The Verge on Apple’s decision making
- Apple’s Response
- Apple Appeals
- App Store rules have been changed
- MJ Tsai’s Roundup
- Tim Sweeney continues grandstanding
- Epic Games announces plans for a shop for iOS developers
- As was foretold, Stripe has entered the chat
- Patreon has also entered the chat
- Friend of the show Riley Testut works fast
- Spotify has also entered the chat
- Ubiquiti
- Marco Recommendations
- Cloud Gateway Fiber
- changedetection.io
- Pushover
- magicplan
- Ubiquiti Designer
- Hyperspace update
- Casey’s Coding Corner
- Vibe coding journey
- SF Symbols journey
- Post-show: Marco’s vibe coding journey
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637: Rotate Those Tennis Balls
The ruling against Apple, the Slate Truck, and using a reMarkable e-ink tablet.
- Pre-show: Marco reaches another milestone
- New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: School, Then and Now
- Follow-up:
- A surprising Vision Pro corner:
- D. Griffin Jones reviews the Sigma BF
- iPadOS window affordances (via Ole Oskar Eriksen)
- Synology’s En💩ification (via Erin Power)
- Judge tells Apple “yeah, no”
- Marco returns to YouTube
- Ask ATP:
- Is it even possible for Siri to get good? (via David MacQueen)
- Do we stll carry wallets? (via Stephen Klinck)
- How do we share photos outside of a family unit? (Dylan Copeland)
- Post-show Neutral: Slate Truck
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ATP Insider: School, Then and Now
How our experiences in school in the 1980s and 1990s were better and worse (mostly worse) than our kids' modern schooling.
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636: Nose-Biting Territory
Spending Casey's money.
- 🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- Casey’s bug-reporting experience with Slack
- Third-party SSDs (via J. Mullins)
- AirPods Pro case swaps (via Steven Merrill)
- USB-C MagSafe Charging Case ($100‼️)
- Cursor IDE support hallucinates policy causing user uprising
(This is a Hacker News link to Reddit, so, uh, tread lightly.) - 🫏🕳️ leaders are not good
- John continues to try to spend Marco’s money
- Apple’s self-service repair program (via Sky Velleity)
- iPadOS 19 rumors
- Footguns and Synology
- Post-show: Marco’s first batch of restaurant-tech MVPs
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s AI doctor
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635: An Effective Operator
Chaos in the government, chaos in the Siri group, chaos in Casey's AirPods case… and new T-shirts!
- Pre-show: Casey’s lightly broken his AirPods Pro 2
- 🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️
- Follow-up:
- 12 April: Trump excludes some electronics from tariffs
- 13 April: …except maybe not?
- Cross-platform photo management
- Nintendo Switch 2
- 4K 120Hz (via Kyle McMahon)
- Kickstand lumps (via Stuart Gibson)
- Other open-world racing games
- Console games price history
- Dropbox & File Provider
- John’s daughter’s college laptop
- Folding aspect ratios
- iPhone Mini… tri-fold? (via Peter Wagoner)
- MKBHD on the Huawei Mate XT
- Reverse-engineered Mac mini SSDs (via Jonathan Claydon)
- How Apple fumbled Siri’s AI makeover
- MacRumors summary
- More on JG’s Siri leadership
- On Robby Walker
- Cross-towngroup tensions
- That fateful demo
- NIH syndrome
- New York Times on Apple GPU purchases
- Post-show: AI mind-share
- Members-only ATP Overtime: Sony announces its 2025 TVs
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